HOW DO YOU LIKE THEMLER?

explainervideo10
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explainervideo10 posted this 02 November 2017

Hello Everyone,

I've been reading a lot of different reviews for the new software Themler. I'm an old Artisteer user tired of the limitations of this software. I can find a few good -and apparently, real- reviews for Themler, however, there a lot of really bad reviews regarding lots of issues.

A few post from 2016 says the software has fixed the bugs that made it worthless but now I read that you can't save your work.

Any Idea , Suggestions would be appreciated,

Thanks,

I didn't find the right solution from the internet.

References:http://www.artisteer.com/?post_id=251543&p=forum_post&forum_id=9

Hello Everyone, I've been reading a lot of different reviews for the new software Themler. I'm an old Artisteer user tired of the limitations of this software. I can find a few good -and apparently, real- reviews for Themler, however, there a lot of really bad reviews regarding lots of issues. A few post from 2016 says the software has fixed the bugs that made it worthless but now I read that you can't save your work. Any Idea , Suggestions would be appreciated, Thanks, I didn't find the right solution from the internet. References:http://www.artisteer.com/?post_id=251543&p=forum_post&forum_id=9

Last edited 20 November 2017 by Support Team

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Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 02 November 2017

Hello.

If you need generator with one-click design: Artisster and uPage will help.

If you need mid-level website: Themler is great tool, but you need time to learn it and have some knowledges about how Bootstrap work.

If you need high-end products: need to work with frameworks and code directly, need to know HTML5, CSS, JS, PHP, MYSQL.

This is IMHO.

Hello. If you need generator with one-click design: Artisster and uPage will help. If you need mid-level website: Themler is great tool, but you need time to learn it and have some knowledges about how Bootstrap work. If you need high-end products: need to work with frameworks and code directly, need to know HTML5, CSS, JS, PHP, MYSQL. This is IMHO.
Cpanel Ireland
10 Posts
Cpanel Ireland posted this 13 November 2017

Hi explainervideo10,

I have used Themler more or less from the beginning and once you have got your head around where everything is and how it works it's actually quite simple and fast to create Themes.

Here are a few examples below.

http://www.zipit.ie/
http://www.engineroomagency.com/
http://www.houseworksfestival.com/

Overall I think this software second to none

Hi explainervideo10, I have used Themler more or less from the beginning and once you have got your head around where everything is and how it works it's actually quite simple and fast to create Themes. Here are a few examples below. http://www.zipit.ie/ http://www.engineroomagency.com/ http://www.houseworksfestival.com/ Overall I think this software second to none
Bayern
107 Posts
Bayern posted this 14 November 2017

i like Themler very much

i like Themler very much
Seagull
114 Posts
Seagull posted this 15 November 2017

Hi explainervideo10,

I have used Themler more or less from the beginning and once you have got your head around where everything is and how it works it's actually quite simple and fast to create Themes.

Here are a few examples below.

http://www.zipit.ie/
http://www.engineroomagency.com/
http://www.houseworksfestival.com/

Overall I think this software second to none

Great looking websites!

> Hi explainervideo10, > > I have used Themler more or less from the beginning and once you have got your head around where everything is and how it works it's actually quite simple and fast to create Themes. > > Here are a few examples below. > > http://www.zipit.ie/ > http://www.engineroomagency.com/ > http://www.houseworksfestival.com/ > > Overall I think this software second to none > Great looking websites!
damian_tito25
6 Posts
damian_tito25 posted this 16 November 2017

It's easy and practical to create themes

can be completed with other visual composer plugins etc.

It's easy and practical to create themes can be completed with other visual composer plugins etc.
Bob the Goat
13 Posts
Bob the Goat posted this 16 November 2017

I do like Themler, it seems to be pretty advanced at what you can do with it, even though it is a bit slow. But the quicker theme builders like Artisteer and I've messed with Template Toaster a bit, it seems like neither one are as advanced and customizable as Themler.

So for me, if I need a quick simple layout, I use Artisteer/Template Toaster. But for more advanced designs, I use Themler. I haven't tried uPage much yet, but I may eventually. I'd like to stay with Themler, as long as the Themler team continues to work on it. They were doing bug fixes and were releasing beta updates about once a month, but they haven't seem to come out with any since early August 2017. I hope they don't abandon and focus full time on uPage, like they did with Artisteer.

I do like Themler, it seems to be pretty advanced at what you can do with it, even though it is a bit slow. But the quicker theme builders like Artisteer and I've messed with Template Toaster a bit, it seems like neither one are as advanced and customizable as Themler. So for me, if I need a quick simple layout, I use Artisteer/Template Toaster. But for more advanced designs, I use Themler. I haven't tried uPage much yet, but I may eventually. I'd like to stay with Themler, as long as the Themler team continues to work on it. They were doing bug fixes and were releasing beta updates about once a month, but they haven't seem to come out with any since early August 2017. I hope they don't abandon and focus full time on uPage, like they did with Artisteer.
DaveOzric
782 Posts
DaveOzric posted this 17 November 2017

It's all I use now. You can do some really great things with it. Takes some time to learn but all things do.

It's all I use now. You can do some really great things with it. Takes some time to learn but all things do.
Linkebel
164 Posts
Linkebel posted this 17 November 2017

I do not recommend Themler

1) It is very slow
2) Often makes third party plugins crash
3) Some bugs where it takes a long time for them to be repaired
4) The support is very very very slow to answer
5) Does not support the latest version of Prestashop and Magento
6) The project seems dead for 1 year now
7) The team has already abandoned a project leaving their client in the enbarras (Artisteer)
8) The team makes fun of people by saying yes we work on it while it is not true (Prestashop 1.7 is under construction since at least February 2017 and at the moment still nothing, it will be ready when the version 1.8 will come out lol)
9) It's not possible for your client to edit the content without Themler or you have to go through third party plugins

I do not recommend Themler 1) It is very slow 2) Often makes third party plugins crash 3) Some bugs where it takes a long time for them to be repaired 4) The support is very very very slow to answer 5) Does not support the latest version of Prestashop and Magento 6) The project seems dead for 1 year now 7) The team has already abandoned a project leaving their client in the enbarras (Artisteer) 8) The team makes fun of people by saying yes we work on it while it is not true (Prestashop 1.7 is under construction since at least February 2017 and at the moment still nothing, it will be ready when the version 1.8 will come out lol) 9) It's not possible for your client to edit the content without Themler or you have to go through third party plugins
DaveOzric
782 Posts
DaveOzric posted this 17 November 2017

Let me clarify, I use it for HTML and Joomla only. Works well. Can't speak to other platforms at all. I think they should of stuck with the 4 main things and been done. Joomla, WordPress, Drupal and HTML

Let me clarify, I use it for HTML and Joomla only. Works well. Can't speak to other platforms at all. I think they should of stuck with the 4 main things and been done. Joomla, WordPress, Drupal and HTML
Vitaliy WD
318 Posts
Vitaliy WD posted this 17 November 2017

I'm use Themler on local WAMP server with Joomla and it works fine.

I think they should of stuck with the 4 main things and been done.
Joomla, WordPress, Drupal and HTML

Totally agree!

I'm use Themler on local WAMP server with Joomla and it works fine. > I think they should of stuck with the 4 main things and been done. > Joomla, WordPress, Drupal and HTML Totally agree!
Bob the Goat
13 Posts
Bob the Goat posted this 17 November 2017

I'd also like to mention that I use it for WordPress, using the Desktop app. It works well with WordPress also. I also agree with Dave, I believe sticking with the 3 main CMS's (including WooCommerce) and HTML.

I'd also like to mention that I use it for WordPress, using the Desktop app. It works well with WordPress also. I also agree with Dave, I believe sticking with the 3 main CMS's (including WooCommerce) and HTML.
DaveOzric
782 Posts
DaveOzric posted this 17 November 2017

We'll see, they are pretty quiet lately. I have nothing against developing a new program if they can support both.

We'll see, they are pretty quiet lately. I have nothing against developing a new program if they can support both.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 20 November 2017

Hi,

Sorry for the long time after latest update. We are now preparing the update with the fixes. Please follow the news.

Sincerely,
Hella

Hi, Sorry for the long time after latest update. We are now preparing the update with the fixes. Please follow the news. Sincerely, Hella
srathje
29 Posts
srathje posted this 21 November 2017

I do not recommend. Long time user abandoned it about 6 months ago.

  • Slow, Buggy, Broken, always changing UI
  • The Developers do not speak or write English very well.
  • Crash, Crash, Crash, Refresh F5 constantly, sometimes changes don't show up.
  • Making CSS/Code changes is a huge chore, and Themler sometimes likes to override those changes at the worst times....
  • Some of the modules simply don't work as intended...IE hovercrapbox.
  • Bloated code, SEO Unfriendly, slow page loading times.
  • Simply do not create pages with Themler (editing them is a nightware.)

I also am starting to abandon Joomla as well, some long time GUI issues in there that simply don't do the trick anymore. If your a Wordpress guy go with Beaver Builder and Beaver Themer (as my first choice - more expensive than Themler for the yearly package but light years ahead and much more pleasant to use ) and perhaps DIVI?

I also agree that the original team behind Artisteer abandoned the long time followers. Their company model seems to be poorly thought out.

I do not recommend. Long time user abandoned it about 6 months ago. - Slow, Buggy, Broken, always changing UI - The Developers do not speak or write English very well. - Crash, Crash, Crash, Refresh F5 constantly, sometimes changes don't show up. - Making CSS/Code changes is a huge chore, and Themler sometimes likes to override those changes at the worst times.... - Some of the modules simply don't work as intended...IE hovercrapbox. - Bloated code, SEO Unfriendly, slow page loading times. - Simply do not create pages with Themler (editing them is a nightware.) I also am starting to abandon Joomla as well, some long time GUI issues in there that simply don't do the trick anymore. If your a Wordpress guy go with Beaver Builder and Beaver Themer (as my first choice - more expensive than Themler for the yearly package but light years ahead and much more pleasant to use ) and perhaps DIVI? I also agree that the original team behind Artisteer abandoned the long time followers. Their company model seems to be poorly thought out.
Seppe
108 Posts
Seppe posted this 22 November 2017

I do not recommend Themler

1) It is very slow
2) Often makes third party plugins crash
3) Some bugs where it takes a long time for them to be repaired
4) The support is very very very slow to answer
5) Does not support the latest version of Prestashop and Magento
6) The project seems dead for 1 year now
7) The team has already abandoned a project leaving their client in the enbarras (Artisteer)
8) The team makes fun of people by saying yes we work on it while it is not true (Prestashop 1.7 is under construction since at least February 2017 and at the moment still nothing, it will be ready when the version 1.8 will come out lol)
9) It's not possible for your client to edit the content without Themler or you have to go through third party plugins

I totally agree
except for nr 4. I think it depends on how good they understand English, or know the problem by other users.

I was also for years an Artisteer user. Themler looked nice in the beginning, but after a while ... more and more frustrations.
At this moment, I don't know if I will renew my subscription. The program advances to slow.

> I do not recommend Themler > > 1) It is very slow > 2) Often makes third party plugins crash > 3) Some bugs where it takes a long time for them to be repaired > 4) The support is very very very slow to answer > 5) Does not support the latest version of Prestashop and Magento > 6) The project seems dead for 1 year now > 7) The team has already abandoned a project leaving their client in the enbarras (Artisteer) > 8) The team makes fun of people by saying yes we work on it while it is not true (Prestashop 1.7 is under construction since at least February 2017 and at the moment still nothing, it will be ready when the version 1.8 will come out lol) > 9) It's not possible for your client to edit the content without Themler or you have to go through third party plugins I totally agree except for nr 4. I think it depends on how good they understand English, or know the problem by other users. I was also for years an Artisteer user. Themler looked nice in the beginning, but after a while ... more and more frustrations. At this moment, I don't know if I will renew my subscription. The program advances to slow.
Stagger Lee
1831 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 28 November 2017

Mostly positive aspects.
Some negative and not so less important:

  • Saving is not suitable for an web company and workers who clicks around in Themler for 8 or more hours per day. This licence protection thing does not work, server resources are bad.
    Paradoxicaly, more you work with Themler and theme, more it is slow at saving.

  • Some coding standards for CMS are not practiced, despite it is very easy to resolve this problems.

  • Keeping a lot on their licencing servers makes another problems. Cannot point on it, saving sometimes reverts back to some older things. Sometimes it is mix, old things and latest together. Believe it has to do with browser crash, or changing IP address from ISP.

  • "Restore" button should be gone long time ago. It is a button from hell. Twice I used it, twice it deleted my intense works of several days. Anyway, it should not be there as easy clickable by mistake.

  • There is absolutely no point to get out with support for one CMS version, when next one version of CMS is on the door, or RC / Beta. To little, to late. All work is done for nothing.
    There is no force in the world that could force me to use older CMS version rather then new one stable, just because of Themler.

  • Non of most voted featured are in sight. It is going on for years. Mega Menu, real one. Animated resized header. Off canvas menu. Many other less voted. Not unusual that companies reject most of the feature wishes. But that not single of them was under consideration is a big sign of alarm.

  • More WP functions should be pluggable and filterable. Not much work for Themler developers, it is known how to make them pluggable.
    Majority of Themler functions do not even have add_filter, add_action parts. It is only laziness, nothing else.

Mostly positive aspects. Some negative and not so less important: - Saving is not suitable for an web company and workers who clicks around in Themler for 8 or more hours per day. This licence protection thing does not work, server resources are bad. Paradoxicaly, more you work with Themler and theme, more it is slow at saving. - Some coding standards for CMS are not practiced, despite it is very easy to resolve this problems. - Keeping a lot on their licencing servers makes another problems. Cannot point on it, saving sometimes reverts back to some older things. Sometimes it is mix, old things and latest together. Believe it has to do with browser crash, or changing IP address from ISP. - "Restore" button should be gone long time ago. It is a button from hell. Twice I used it, twice it deleted my intense works of several days. Anyway, it should not be there as easy clickable by mistake. - There is absolutely no point to get out with support for one CMS version, when next one version of CMS is on the door, or RC / Beta. To little, to late. All work is done for nothing. There is no force in the world that could force me to use older CMS version rather then new one stable, just because of Themler. - Non of most voted featured are in sight. It is going on for years. Mega Menu, real one. Animated resized header. Off canvas menu. Many other less voted. Not unusual that companies reject most of the feature wishes. But that not single of them was under consideration is a big sign of alarm. - More WP functions should be pluggable and filterable. Not much work for Themler developers, it is known how to make them pluggable. Majority of Themler functions do not even have add_filter, add_action parts. It is only laziness, nothing else.

Last edited 28 November 2017 by Stagger Lee

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