How to style blocks in Themler

Ian Shere
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Ian Shere posted this 31 August 2015

While Themler has improvements over Artisteer, many options seem to be deleted or so hidden as to be unfindable. Styling blocks is one of them.

In Artisteer there was a BLOCK tab. Where is the corresponding option in Themler? And, no, I don't want to do it in Joomla, I want to do all the styling in Themler first.

While Themler has improvements over Artisteer, many options seem to be deleted or so hidden as to be unfindable. Styling blocks is one of them. In Artisteer there was a BLOCK tab. Where is the corresponding option in Themler? And, no, I don't want to do it in Joomla, I want to do all the styling in Themler first.
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lesergei
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lesergei posted this 31 August 2015

Hi,
In Themler if you do not have a block published in Joomla, it will not be visible, but you can make cosmetic changes in the styles menu in the widgets sub-menu and it is still called block.

Hi, In Themler if you do not have a block published in Joomla, it will not be visible, but you can make cosmetic changes in the styles menu in the widgets sub-menu and it is still called block.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 02 September 2015

Hello Ian,
the blocks in sidebars are located inside Joomla Module Position controls. This control has options to style Blocks:

BlockStyle.png

regards,
Aileen

Hello Ian, the blocks in sidebars are located inside Joomla Module Position controls. This control has options to style Blocks: !BlockStyle.png! regards, Aileen
Ian Shere
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Ian Shere posted this 02 September 2015

I found something that may be them under "Styles" - not an intuitive menu item to place them under, and Joomla doesn't call blocks "widgets" - that's Wordpress. A bit confusing. I don't see where your image is from - I don't see anything headed up "Joomla Module Position".

I get the feeling that Themler is more flexible than Artisteer, but it's GUI gives the feeling of "thrown together". Nothing is intuitive or logically laid out.

So, please tell me how to find "Joomla Module Position". I have searched and cannot find it.

@lesergei - I don't follow what you are saying, or, if I do,m it confuses me all the more about how Themler works. Your reply seems to say that Themler knows, before I install a Joomla site, whether I have (actually, will have) something published in a sidebar position. Note my original question - I NEVER edit in the CMS - I use Themeler just like Artisteer - create template, then export. Well, that's not entirely true either. I've yet to fully create a template in Themler. I always end up frustrated after hours of trying to make it work, and do the whole job in 20 minutes in Artisteer.

I found something that may be them under "Styles" - not an intuitive menu item to place them under, and Joomla doesn't call blocks "widgets" - that's Wordpress. A bit confusing. I don't see where your image is from - I don't see anything headed up "Joomla Module Position". I get the feeling that Themler is more flexible than Artisteer, but it's GUI gives the feeling of "thrown together". Nothing is intuitive or logically laid out. So, please tell me how to find "Joomla Module Position". I have searched and cannot find it. @lesergei - I don't follow what you are saying, or, if I do,m it confuses me all the more about how Themler works. Your reply seems to say that Themler knows, before I install a Joomla site, whether I have (actually, will have) something published in a sidebar position. Note my original question - I NEVER edit in the CMS - I use Themeler just like Artisteer - create template, then export. Well, that's not entirely true either. I've yet to fully create a template in Themler. I always end up frustrated after hours of trying to make it work, and do the whole job in 20 minutes in Artisteer.
lesergei
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lesergei posted this 02 September 2015

Hello Ian,

I admit that my answer is a little vague, I hope this time my message will be clearer. :)

Example, in Artisteer, you add a block, "most read posts" module in the left column. In Themler you should see this module. Regarding the picture posted by Aileen, simply click on the module you want to edit, and this menu will appear.

See my image.

Hello Ian, I admit that my answer is a little vague, I hope this time my message will be clearer. :) Example, in Artisteer, you add a block, "most read posts" module in the left column. In Themler you should see this module. Regarding the picture posted by Aileen, simply click on the module you want to edit, and this menu will appear. See my image.
Ian Shere
67 Posts
Ian Shere posted this 02 September 2015

Ahhh OK thank you. Wow - that is quite unintuitive. Well, to someone coming from Artisteer who is used to seeing Blocks as a separate menu item. ONLY being able to edit these by clicking makes perfect sense once you know, but, otherwise, it leaves a user floundering where to do stuff.\

I guess I'll get used to it, but, from a web design point of view, this is really bad design. In web design we're taught that we shouldn't make our visitors guess what to do. It should be blindingly obvious. Anyhow, thanks for clearing that up. :-)

Ahhh OK thank you. Wow - that is quite unintuitive. Well, to someone coming from Artisteer who is used to seeing Blocks as a separate menu item. ONLY being able to edit these by clicking makes perfect sense once you know, but, otherwise, it leaves a user floundering where to do stuff.\ I guess I'll get used to it, but, from a web design point of view, this is really bad design. In web design we're taught that we shouldn't make our visitors guess what to do. It should be blindingly obvious. Anyhow, thanks for clearing that up. :-)
len
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len posted this 22 January 2016

I can edit the sidebar widget area, head and content areas, but cannot see the effects of this in Themla as I could in Artisteer.

I have switched off the left sidebar and turned on the right sidebar, then added a WP secondary widget area, but cannot work out how to insert content into it so that I can see design changes done as described above.

How do I add a block to the WP secondary widget area in the right sidebar?

I can edit the sidebar widget area, head and content areas, but cannot see the effects of this in Themla as I could in Artisteer. I have switched off the left sidebar and turned on the right sidebar, then added a WP secondary widget area, but cannot work out how to insert content into it so that I can see design changes done as described above. How do I add a block to the WP secondary widget area in the right sidebar?
len
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len posted this 22 January 2016

Insert "block" does not appear anywhere on the insert menu at the top of themla, even under the more section.

Insert "block" does not appear anywhere on the insert menu at the top of themla, even under the more section.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 25 January 2016

Hi,

Have you tried adding a widget to that area from the WP back end? Then it should appear in the Themler editor and you will be able to edit the styles.

Sincerely,
Hella

Hi, Have you tried adding a widget to that area from the WP back end? Then it should appear in the Themler editor and you will be able to edit the styles. Sincerely, Hella
len
134 Posts
len posted this 31 March 2016

Styling blocks is almost impossible in Themler, with nothing visible to style. Likewise vertical menus.
There is no way to add a vertical menu control or block into the widget area of the left or right sidebar.
Somehow I have now got Themler to have the content from Artisteer when create a new theme, not sure how that happened. I can now click on the block and vertical menu to style it, but its the left sidebar only primary widget area only, and not the right sidebar.
Ability to style blocks and vertical menus only appears if the elements are there.

I have gone through the help stuff, but there is nothing that explains any of this.

Hella's suggestion is not practical either. I don't install themes in Wordpress with Themler access from the Wordpress backend, this is no good for end users and they don't have a Themler account.

Is there an answer to this?

Styling blocks is almost impossible in Themler, with nothing visible to style. Likewise vertical menus. There is no way to add a vertical menu control or block into the widget area of the left or right sidebar. Somehow I have now got Themler to have the content from Artisteer when create a new theme, not sure how that happened. I can now click on the block and vertical menu to style it, but its the left sidebar only primary widget area only, and not the right sidebar. Ability to style blocks and vertical menus only appears if the elements are there. I have gone through the help stuff, but there is nothing that explains any of this. Hella's suggestion is not practical either. I don't install themes in Wordpress with Themler access from the Wordpress backend, this is no good for end users and they don't have a Themler account. Is there an answer to this?

Last edited 31 March 2016 by len

Support Team
Support Team posted this 01 April 2016

Hi,

You can style the blocks and vertical menus under the Design tab. Also you can go to the admin panel of your desktop site, add several widgets and then style those blocks within the application. Basically you define the default block style under the design tab and can also add some custom styles for each widget area when some block is added within it.

Sincerely,
Hella

Hi, You can style the blocks and vertical menus under the Design tab. Also you can go to the admin panel of your desktop site, add several widgets and then style those blocks within the application. Basically you define the default block style under the design tab and can also add some custom styles for each widget area when some block is added within it. Sincerely, Hella
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