Beta Testing!

Support Team
Support Team posted this 08 January 2016

Hi everyone!

Interested in trying Themler pre-release Beta?
Now you can help us to make the next releases of Themler even better by test-driving pre-release versions and letting us know what you think.

How to participate?

  1. Access your profile and enable "Get Beta Updates" option:

    get-beta.png

  2. Click "Save Profile".

  3. Restart Themler and click "New Updates Available" option to get the latest update:
    update-themler.png

    Now you can start testing pre-release Themler update.
    NOTE: The updated theme will not be compatible with current Themler Stable. Therefore please keep the backup to be able to get back to the Themler Stable.
    To get back to Stable release simply disable "Get Beta Updates" option in your profile and use theme backup.

Please let us know about any issues that you encounter with pre-release update.

Thank you,
Themler Team

Hi everyone! Interested in trying Themler pre-release Beta? Now you can help us to make the next releases of Themler even better by test-driving pre-release versions and letting us know what you think. How to participate? 1. Access your profile and enable *"Get Beta Updates"* option: !get-beta.png! 2. Click "Save Profile". 2. Restart Themler and click "New Updates Available" option to get the latest update: !update-themler.png! Now you can start testing pre-release Themler update. **NOTE:** The updated theme will not be compatible with current Themler Stable. Therefore please keep the backup to be able to get back to the Themler Stable. To get back to Stable release simply disable *"Get Beta Updates"* option in your profile and use theme backup. Please [let us know][1] about any issues that you encounter with pre-release update. Thank you, Themler Team [1]: http://answers.themler.com/Topic/Create?private=1

Last edited 20 June 2016 by Support Team

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Alexander Dzhuninski
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Alexander Dzhuninski posted this 08 January 2016

whats the salary for beta tester.........?

whats the salary for beta tester.........?
Hamzah
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Hamzah posted this 08 January 2016

What's new?

What's new?
Support Team
Support Team posted this 09 January 2016

The latest beta update fixes several most popular crashes.

The latest beta update fixes several most popular crashes.
Stagger Lee
1816 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 10 January 2016

Finally an way to use otherways very unusefull Desktop Themler. I will check it and use it. But I have feeling I will spend more time figuring what is changed/new than to make whole new theme.

I seee now it is connected to whole profile. Can you move this option to our local stuff, to decide it from case to case ?
I will try to mark this option and update Desktop themes then disable it. Will see how it goes.

Finally an way to use otherways very unusefull Desktop Themler. I will check it and use it. But I have feeling I will spend more time figuring what is changed/new than to make whole new theme. I seee now it is connected to whole profile. Can you move this option to our local stuff, to decide it from case to case ? I will try to mark this option and update Desktop themes then disable it. Will see how it goes.

Last edited 10 January 2016 by Stagger Lee

Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 11 January 2016

Hello.

On what features / fixes you work now? What's new we can expect in future updates?
What's priority you have chosen: Template Editing or Content Editing ?

Will be nice to see a little roadmap :)

Hello. On what **features** / **fixes** you work now? What's new we can expect in future updates? What's priority you have chosen: **Template Editing** or **Content Editing** ? Will be nice to see a little roadmap :)
BillyBob
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BillyBob posted this 15 January 2016

I’ve only done manual template design to date and I’m on my 2nd full template design. The first template I completed was pre Themler UI update (80 hours of learning Themler by fire), and the template I'm working on now now is with the latest Themler beta. We need more responsive menu controls at top in the hmenu area. The options in the hmenu responsive area are limited to ‘button’ and ‘hover’. In that responsive area going to ‘hover’ then ‘more options’ then choosing from that panels drop down menu’s hierarchy list and selecting ‘active’, then editing those settings, has no effect on the template's responsive menu CSS values. It’s like those settings are there to change but dead.

I’ve only done manual template design to date and I’m on my 2nd full template design. The first template I completed was pre Themler UI update (80 hours of learning Themler by fire), and the template I'm working on now now is with the latest Themler beta. We need more responsive menu controls at top in the hmenu area. The options in the hmenu responsive area are limited to ‘button’ and ‘hover’. In that responsive area going to ‘hover’ then ‘more options’ then choosing from that panels drop down menu’s hierarchy list and selecting ‘active’, then editing those settings, has no effect on the template's responsive menu CSS values. It’s like those settings are there to change but dead.
Mark Holland
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Mark Holland posted this 15 January 2016

More than happy to beta test, also i have a test server which i build on and can give you full access should i find any bugs.
Thanks Mark

More than happy to beta test, also i have a test server which i build on and can give you full access should i find any bugs. Thanks Mark
Marco
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Marco posted this 16 January 2016

it´s interessting, but not good solution.
Better would be, that I can use a BETA on my laptop and the "regular" version on my PC.
So for testing i go on my laptop, but when working I can go to my destop PC.

Why not like this? Dont wont to activate it for my whole account - just for the version on the laptop...
there should be an option to activate a installation... :(

otherwise - it makes no sense...

it´s interessting, but not good solution. Better would be, that I can use a BETA on my laptop and the "regular" version on my PC. So for testing i go on my laptop, but when working I can go to my destop PC. Why not like this? Dont wont to activate it for my whole account - just for the version on the laptop... there should be an option to activate a installation... :( otherwise - it makes no sense...
Kata
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Kata posted this 16 January 2016

Brilliant idea!
When you work on your desktop PC, simply disable "Get Beta Updates" option in your profile and then start Themler.
:)

Brilliant idea! When you work on your desktop PC, simply disable "Get Beta Updates" option in your profile and then start Themler. :)

Last edited 16 January 2016 by Kata

Jason.basterfield
5 Posts
Jason.basterfield posted this 18 January 2016

I would love to be able to edit themler in my wordpress site using my ipad or mobile phone

I would love to be able to edit themler in my wordpress site using my ipad or mobile phone
Jason.basterfield
5 Posts
Jason.basterfield posted this 18 January 2016

It would be nice to to have a get started guide video tutorial with someone narrating it, which is not at warp speed.

It would be nice to to have a get started guide video tutorial with someone narrating it, which is not at warp speed.
Vitaliy WD
214 Posts
Vitaliy WD posted this 22 January 2016

Hello.

On what features / fixes you work now? What's new we can expect in future updates?
What's priority you have chosen: Template Editing or Content Editing ?

Will be nice to see a little roadmap :)

Any reply from support?

> Hello. > > On what **features** / **fixes** you work now? What's new we can expect in future updates? > What's priority you have chosen: **Template Editing** or **Content Editing** ? > > Will be nice to see a little roadmap :) Any reply from support?
Support Team
Support Team posted this 11 February 2016

Hi,

In general, This BETA is something like pre-update. There were a few problems, which appear only production server. Therefore we decided to create this BETA to test such problems and allow customers to test the next update before update, to test the fixed for issues which they reported. In most of cases BETA becomes stable update within a few days if there were no major problems.

On what features / fixes you work now? What's new we can expect in future updates?
What's priority you have chosen: Template Editing or Content Editing?
Will be nice to see a little roadmap :)

We have a lot of plans :)
As I remember, you're interested in Template Editing, right?
We plan to include the following features in one of the future major updates:
- default styles for selects, radio buttons and checkboxes
- icon for menu item with subitems only.
- switch to 12 bootstrap columns layout instead of current 24 columns.
- support dynamic url for Social icons control
- and some other features.
We're also working on Sections(Presets) for Blog.

In parallel we're working on creating more Sections and Pages and trying to simplify the work with Sections and Pages.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi, In general, This BETA is something like pre-update. There were a few problems, which appear only production server. Therefore we decided to create this BETA to test such problems and allow customers to test the next update before update, to test the fixed for issues which they reported. In most of cases BETA becomes stable update within a few days if there were no major problems. > On what features / fixes you work now? What's new we can expect in future updates? What's priority you have chosen: Template Editing or Content Editing? Will be nice to see a little roadmap :) We have a lot of plans :) As I remember, you're interested in Template Editing, right? We plan to include the following features in one of the future major updates: - default styles for selects, radio buttons and checkboxes - icon for menu item with subitems only. - switch to 12 bootstrap columns layout instead of current 24 columns. - support dynamic url for Social icons control - and some other features. We're also working on Sections(Presets) for Blog. In parallel we're working on creating more Sections and Pages and trying to simplify the work with Sections and Pages. Thank you, Olivia
Vitaliy WD
214 Posts
Vitaliy WD posted this 11 February 2016

Sounds good. Thank you for reply :)

Only one thing: do you have plans to work on better UX of new UI?

Sounds good. Thank you for reply :) Only one thing: do you have plans to work on better UX of new UI?
Support Team
Support Team posted this 11 February 2016

Hi,

In general yes, we're working on improving new UI.
If you have some specific suggestions about new UI please let us know.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi, In general yes, we're working on improving new UI. If you have some specific suggestions about new UI please let us know. Thank you, Olivia
funmaking
107 Posts
funmaking posted this 11 February 2016

Please don't forget to work for including custom styles in tables.

Thank you

Please don't forget to work for including custom styles in tables. Thank you
BillyBob
58 Posts
BillyBob posted this 13 February 2016

This is a UI suggestion which I mentioned this in another comment in a beta thread, but maybe better to put here. When you click in a value box to get cursor active inside of it to change a value, in the process of removing my hand from the mouse to type, I always move my mouse just a little bit too far which makes the value box no longer active (cursor goes away). Problematic for me, I like to work fast and that always slows me down a bit. Please increase the distance the mouse is allowed outside of the active value area if you can, or set is so the mouse distance doesn’t affect whether your cursor goes away.

Another suggestion that I know has been mentioned elsewhere, please include some brief beta notes. Even today there is an update available but I’m apprehensive to install it because I know ZERO about what’s been changed. I think providing a few notes about beta releases is important to us end users.

This is a UI suggestion which I mentioned this in another comment in a beta thread, but maybe better to put here. When you click in a value box to get cursor active inside of it to change a value, in the process of removing my hand from the mouse to type, I always move my mouse just a little bit too far which makes the value box no longer active (cursor goes away). Problematic for me, I like to work fast and that always slows me down a bit. Please increase the distance the mouse is allowed outside of the active value area if you can, or set is so the mouse distance doesn’t affect whether your cursor goes away. Another suggestion that I know has been mentioned elsewhere, please include some brief beta notes. Even today there is an update available but I’m apprehensive to install it because I know ZERO about what’s been changed. I think providing a few notes about beta releases is important to us end users.
Stagger Lee
1816 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 14 February 2016

Your latest 2 updates (190 and 193 I believe) have some problem. On first refresh/reload (F5) left sidebar will not open. it opens just when you click small arrow somewhere to open right sidebar.
So Users not knowing how to open it could have problems using Themler.

Later when working and changing templates all is normal.

Your latest 2 updates (190 and 193 I believe) have some problem. On first refresh/reload (F5) left sidebar will not open. it opens just when you click small arrow somewhere to open right sidebar. So Users not knowing how to open it could have problems using Themler. Later when working and changing templates all is normal.
Stagger Lee
1816 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 14 February 2016

I have one question and it is very crucial.

  • We activate Beta testing option.
  • We update theme to latest Beta version.
  • You get feedback and find many bugs and problems.
  • You change a lot inside this specific version.

Does it mean we will never again get red circle to upade with new code just because our version is already as it is ?
It is very important to know how did you plan for this.

I have one question and it is very crucial. - We activate Beta testing option. - We update theme to latest Beta version. - You get feedback and find many bugs and problems. - You change a lot inside this specific version. Does it mean we will never again get red circle to upade with new code just because our version is already as it is ? It is very important to know how did you plan for this.

Last edited 14 February 2016 by Stagger Lee

Support Team
Support Team posted this 15 February 2016

Hi Shawn,

Here is a preliminary list.
We plan to publish this beta in the next few days.
Please let us know if you face any issues with the current Beta.

Stagger Lee,

Your latest 2 updates (190 and 193 I believe) have some problem. On first refresh/reload (F5) left sidebar will not open. it opens just when you click small arrow somewhere to open right sidebar.

I've failed to reproduce this issue on my side,
Could you please create a short video that demonstrates the issue?

It is very important to know how did you plan for this.

For example:

  • You created a theme on Themler v.178.
  • You activated Beta updates and updated your theme to v.193. The update process created a backup. So you have two themes: theme v.193 and theme_bkp v.178
  • You found and reported a bug with v.193 beta update.
  • We fixed this bug and updated Beta version, to, let's say v.200.
  • You will see the "Update" icon and you will be able to update theme v.193 to the new Beta version.
    The important thing is that if you disable "Get Beta updates" you will not be able to open the updated theme. You cannot downgrade the theme. You can only update it.
    In this case you will need to use a backup of the theme.
  • Then we release v.200 as public.
  • If you have Get Beta updates option enabled you will not see the "Update" button for the theme updated with beta because it's already updated.
    But you will see this icon if we update beta one more time just before release and Themler will be released as v.201 when your theme is saved with v.200. And next time you will see the icon for updated theme when a new beta update (for example, v.250) will be available.

Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi **Shawn**, [Here](page:58662) is a preliminary list. We plan to publish this beta in the next few days. Please let us know if you face any issues with the current Beta. **Stagger Lee**, > Your latest 2 updates (190 and 193 I believe) have some problem. On first refresh/reload (F5) left sidebar will not open. it opens just when you click small arrow somewhere to open right sidebar. I've failed to reproduce this issue on my side, Could you please create a short video that demonstrates the issue? > It is very important to know how did you plan for this. For example: - You created a theme on Themler v.178. - You activated Beta updates and updated your theme to v.193. The update process created a backup. So you have two themes: theme v.193 and theme_bkp v.178 - You found and reported a bug with v.193 beta update. - We fixed this bug and updated Beta version, to, let's say v.200. - You will see the "Update" icon and you will be able to update theme v.193 to the new Beta version. The important thing is that if you disable "Get Beta updates" you will not be able to open the updated theme. You cannot downgrade the theme. You can only update it. In this case you will need to use a backup of the theme. - Then we release v.200 as public. - If you have *Get Beta updates* option enabled you will not see the "Update" button for the theme updated with beta because it's already updated. But you will see this icon if we update beta one more time just before release and Themler will be released as v.201 when your theme is saved with v.200. And next time you will see the icon for updated theme when a new beta update (for example, v.250) will be available. Please let us know if you have any further questions. Thank you, Olivia
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