Do you plan to develop Content Construction Kit for CMS?

Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 14 April 2016

Hello Themler team.

Do you plan to develop Content Construction Kit for CMS like a SP Page Builder, JSN PageBuilder and Visual Composer - great examples how the content editing should look like and must be.

It's long way to create solution like above, but it will be very powerfull. Think, that primary target must be Template Editing and Content Editing must be developed separately in way like in examples above.

I talk about extension for Joomla and WP inside CMS (not inside Themler like a Content Editor). It may be a button inside article editing page and this button call extension to insert Sections etc. like in this videos: https://youtu.be/dqRzj05CySA and https://youtu.be/aiTIrxGT4Dk

Hello Themler team. Do you plan to develop Content Construction Kit for CMS like a [SP Page Builder][1], [JSN PageBuilder][2] and [Visual Composer][3] - great examples how the content editing should look like and must be. It's long way to create solution like above, but it will be very powerfull. Think, that primary target must be Template Editing and Content Editing must be developed separately in way like in examples above. I talk about extension for Joomla and WP inside CMS (not inside Themler like a Content Editor). It may be a button inside article editing page and this button call extension to insert Sections etc. like in this videos: https://youtu.be/dqRzj05CySA and https://youtu.be/aiTIrxGT4Dk [1]: https://www.joomshaper.com/page-builder [2]: http://demo.joomlashine.com/joomla-extensions/jsn-pagebuilder/jsn-pagebuilder-overview.html [3]: http://vc.wpbakery.com/
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Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 14 December 2017

Thin line... this software may be simple with limited functionality or powerful that give us another Themler. Now this software not simple and not powerful.

Hope that you will back to Themler that already powerful and if you will create CCK plugin that allows to edit Themler Sections using visual editor - Themler will be more simple for most new users.

Why you develop circle from scratch (called uPage) instead of visual editor development for Themlers sections? Many of users here don't understand why did you choose this way.

Thin line... this software may be simple with limited functionality or powerful that give us another Themler. Now this software not simple and not powerful. Hope that you will back to Themler that already powerful and if you will create CCK plugin that allows to edit Themler Sections using visual editor - Themler will be more simple for most new users. Why you develop circle from scratch (called uPage) instead of visual editor development for Themlers sections? Many of users here don't understand why did you choose this way.
Administración web
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Administración web posted this 14 December 2017

Thin line... this software may be simple with limited functionality or powerful that give us another Themler. Now this software not simple and not powerful.

Hope that you will back to Themler that already powerful and if you will create CCK plugin that allows to edit Themler Sections using visual editor - Themler will be more simple for most new users.

Why you develop circle from scratch (called uPage) instead of visual editor development for Themlers sections? Many of users here don't understand why did you choose this way.

Totalmente cierto Vitaly WD, Themler es tan potente y simplemente le falta el editor visual para el cliente para ser tan simple para todos.
Upage podría ser bueno a Futuro lejano (Y como dijo otro usuario por ahí ya hay varios igualitos, inclusive uno gratis), pero es demasiado sencillo, aún le falta mucho, los usuarios van a crear el mismo diseño para todas sus páginas web, en cambio en Themler tienes LIBERTAD para crear y desarrollar, THEMLER es mejor que todos con los que he trabajado por mucho.

De igual forma Gracias a Themler porque simplemente es Grandioso, solo le falta el editor visual para el cliente para Sacarla del estadio y como dice Vitaly WD: "Esperamos que vuelvan lo antes posible a Themler que ya es bantante potente"

> Thin line... this software may be simple with limited functionality or powerful that give us another Themler. Now this software not simple and not powerful. > > Hope that you will back to Themler that already powerful and if you will create CCK plugin that allows to edit Themler Sections using visual editor - Themler will be more simple for most new users. > > Why you develop circle from scratch (called uPage) instead of visual editor development for Themlers sections? Many of users here don't understand why did you choose this way. Totalmente cierto [Vitaly WD][1], Themler es tan potente y simplemente le falta el editor visual para el cliente para ser tan simple para todos. [Upage][2] podría ser bueno a Futuro lejano (Y como dijo otro usuario por ahí ya hay varios igualitos, inclusive uno gratis), pero es demasiado sencillo, aún le falta mucho, los usuarios van a crear el mismo diseño para todas sus páginas web, en cambio en Themler tienes LIBERTAD para crear y desarrollar, THEMLER es mejor que todos con los que he trabajado por mucho. De igual forma Gracias a Themler porque simplemente es Grandioso, solo le falta el editor visual para el cliente para Sacarla del estadio y como dice [Vitaly WD][3]: "Esperamos que vuelvan lo antes posible a Themler que ya es bantante potente" [1]: http://answers.themler.io/users/Vitaliy%20WD [2]: https://upage.io/ [3]: http://answers.themler.io/users/Vitaliy%20WD
Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 15 December 2017

And can you tell when uPage will be done? Just want to know when developers team can be back to Themler :)

And can you tell when uPage will be done? Just want to know when developers team can be back to Themler :)
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 15 December 2017

I cannot describe how stupid is this uPage thing.
It is static HTML visual builder. Doing theme for any CMS, Shop, etc, would take more time with uPage than to do it manually.

Even Themler would be very primitive and limited if they did not add CMS Control. It is precisely this Control that makes it unique and so good.

And this more than stupid thing to type URL, or search Google Images, and uPage pull all images, build something with its "Artificial Intelligence".
Maybe in Russia. In EU it is right way to the court of law, for using images of other people/companies without rights, licence for it.

I cannot describe how stupid is this uPage thing. It is static HTML visual builder. Doing theme for any CMS, Shop, etc, would take more time with uPage than to do it manually. Even Themler would be very primitive and limited if they did not add CMS Control. It is precisely this Control that makes it unique and so good. And this more than stupid thing to type URL, or search Google Images, and uPage pull all images, build something with its "Artificial Intelligence". Maybe in Russia. In EU it is right way to the court of law, for using images of other people/companies without rights, licence for it.

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Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 15 December 2017

Or to shorten it to the one sentence:

  • I do not have use of uPage magic, superb, mega, turbo layouts if I cannot show dynamic content there, data from a database, data of my choice.

Even Themler is bad at it, despite for developers would be relatively easy task to expand it and make better. All CMS they know by heart.
Some workaround by naming templates correctly we can make it work nice.

Image(s) that are especially told to the search engines not to index, and they respect it, are collected by uPage.

Really do not know why they could not make 2 versions of Themler. Easy one for all people with lack of time, or lack of nerves, and one version for advanced Users.

User is starting with easy one, when time is right he/she feels more advanced and convert theme to advanced Themler version. If not, up to User, not big deal.

Or to shorten it to the one sentence: - I do not have use of uPage magic, superb, mega, turbo layouts if I cannot show dynamic content there, data from a database, data of my choice. Even Themler is bad at it, despite for developers would be relatively easy task to expand it and make better. All CMS they know by heart. Some workaround by naming templates correctly we can make it work nice. Image(s) that are especially told to the search engines not to index, and they respect it, are collected by uPage. Really do not know why they could not make 2 versions of Themler. Easy one for all people with lack of time, or lack of nerves, and one version for advanced Users. User is starting with easy one, when time is right he/she feels more advanced and convert theme to advanced Themler version. If not, up to User, not big deal.

Last edited 15 December 2017 by Stagger Lee

Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 15 December 2017

Really do not know why they could not make 2 versions of Themler. Easy
one for all people with lack of time, or lack of nerves, and one
version for advanced Users.

User is starting with easy one, when time is right he/she feels more
advanced and convert theme to advanced Themler version. If not, up to
User, not big deal.

There is one idea: make one option in Themler with Simple / Expert switcher.

This idea from one of user... and we discus about it somewhere... and we get answer from Themler that this is good idea but not possible implement it in current Themler version. For this need to create Themler 2.0.

Here is example: http://smartslider3.helpscoutdocs.com/article/406-secondary-navigation-bar

So Themler 2.0 with Simple / Expert mode switcher will be very good idea and product.
Just look how great it can be: https://youtu.be/orld-gwFG5A?t=10s

> Really do not know why they could not make 2 versions of Themler. Easy > one for all people with lack of time, or lack of nerves, and one > version for advanced Users. > > User is starting with easy one, when time is right he/she feels more > advanced and convert theme to advanced Themler version. If not, up to > User, not big deal. There is one idea: make one option in Themler with Simple / Expert switcher. This idea from one of user... and we discus about it somewhere... and we get answer from Themler that this is good idea but not possible implement it in current Themler version. For this need to create Themler 2.0. Here is example: http://smartslider3.helpscoutdocs.com/article/406-secondary-navigation-bar So Themler 2.0 with Simple / Expert mode switcher will be very good idea and product. Just look how great it can be: https://youtu.be/orld-gwFG5A?t=10s

Last edited 15 December 2017 by Vitaliy WD

shaulhadar
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shaulhadar posted this 16 December 2017

That is a great idea, I wish they can implement it...
I really wish they would go back to work on new features....there are some features that the team can build in no time....

What’s more confusing is that Themler is already about three years old, and it is still revolutionary for me and me work style, and I assume for lots more..

Themler team, please give us some eta perhaps on when some new features will be implemented.?

That is a great idea, I wish they can implement it... I really wish they would go back to work on new features....there are some features that the team can build in no time.... What’s more confusing is that Themler is already about three years old, and it is still revolutionary for me and me work style, and I assume for lots more.. Themler team, please give us some eta perhaps on when some new features will be implemented.?
Pixie Magic
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Pixie Magic posted this 21 March 2018

That sounds awesome. I stopped using Themler (after Artisteer ground to a halt), but if there was a good White Label and Unbranded CMS i could be tempted back to either Artisteer or Themler.
Thanks

Hi,

Sorry, for now I cannot provide any information regarding the editor for Themler. But we are now working on the new software that will have a simple and powerful visual content editor.
If you need your clients to edit the content, please do not create or edit the content inside Themler so the clients will be able to edit them in the CMS editor.

Sincerely,
Hella

Hi,

Sorry, for now I cannot provide any information regarding the editor for Themler. But we are now working on the new software that will have a simple and powerful visual content editor.
If you need your clients to edit the content, please do not create or edit the content inside Themler so the clients will be able to edit them in the CMS editor.

Sincerely,
Hella

That sounds awesome. I stopped using Themler (after Artisteer ground to a halt), but if there was a good White Label and Unbranded CMS i could be tempted back to either Artisteer or Themler. Thanks > Hi, > > Sorry, for now I cannot provide any information regarding the editor for Themler. But we are now working on the new software that will have a simple and powerful visual content editor. > If you need your clients to edit the content, please do not create or edit the content inside Themler so the clients will be able to edit them in the CMS editor. > > Sincerely, > Hella > Hi, > > Sorry, for now I cannot provide any information regarding the editor for Themler. But we are now working on the new software that will have a simple and powerful visual content editor. > If you need your clients to edit the content, please do not create or edit the content inside Themler so the clients will be able to edit them in the CMS editor. > > Sincerely, > Hella
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