SEO in Themler - don't repeat Artisteers major flaw

DaveOzric
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DaveOzric posted this 14 April 2015

I need to verify you are not going to repeat the HUGE oversite with Artisteer and SEO structure on templates, Joomla in particular.

As of now Artisteer outputs a SEO disaster that is not even fixable by editing the template after export.

  1. Artisteer = Headline is H1 totally wrong, never have the same H1 tag on all pages and this destroys the opportunity to have a different one since you are NOT supposed to have multiple H1 tags on any page. Can be fixed manually after ever export. Huge pain in the...

  2. Page Heading and Article Title are both H2 and cannot be changed even after export because they are the same class. In Joomla each page can have a Page Heading at the menu level customized for the page outside the page title tag. This is built into Joomla to have full control over SEO and is brilliant. Artisteer is killing this amazing opportunity. This should be an H1 tag and the Article Headings should remain the H2.

Are these going to be working in Themler? God I hope so. This cannot possibly be overlooked again.

I need to verify you are not going to repeat the HUGE oversite with Artisteer and SEO structure on templates, Joomla in particular. As of now Artisteer outputs a SEO disaster that is not even fixable by editing the template after export. 1. Artisteer = Headline is H1 totally wrong, never have the same H1 tag on all pages and this destroys the opportunity to have a different one since you are NOT supposed to have multiple H1 tags on any page. Can be fixed manually after ever export. Huge pain in the... 2. Page Heading and Article Title are both H2 and cannot be changed even after export because they are the same class. In Joomla each page can have a Page Heading at the menu level customized for the page outside the page title tag. This is built into Joomla to have full control over SEO and is brilliant. Artisteer is killing this amazing opportunity. This should be an H1 tag and the Article Headings should remain the H2. Are these going to be working in Themler? God I hope so. This cannot possibly be overlooked again.
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Support Team
Support Team posted this 12 October 2015

Hello Lorelei,
please refer to the post above
http://answers.themler.com/answers/10491

Only Page Title is displayed as H1. There's no way to change it.

regards,
Aileen

Hello Lorelei, please refer to the post above http://answers.themler.com/answers/10491 Only Page Title is displayed as H1. There's no way to change it. regards, Aileen
LGWeb
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LGWeb posted this 11 October 2015

In Wordpress How can I make the Page Title and Page Header Different?

I want H1 and H2 to always act independently.

I have a Page Title.. so when I name my page it sets H1 to the Page Title.. But it is also setting the H2 tag to the same thing...

I want the H1 to be the name of my page.. and H2 to be the Title of the page...

For example.

<h1>SEO Firm</h1>
<h2>Search Engine Specialist</h2>

In Wordpress How can I make the Page Title and Page Header Different? I want H1 and H2 to always act independently. I have a Page Title.. so when I name my page it sets H1 to the Page Title.. But it is also setting the H2 tag to the same thing... I want the H1 to be the name of my page.. and H2 to be the Title of the page... For example. &lt;h1&gt;SEO Firm&lt;/h1&gt; &lt;h2&gt;Search Engine Specialist&lt;/h2&gt;
Support Team
Support Team posted this 17 April 2015

You're welcome!
Please let us know if you have any other questions.

Thank you,
Olivia

You're welcome! Please let us know if you have any other questions. Thank you, Olivia
DaveOzric
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DaveOzric posted this 17 April 2015

This is great news and I am really looking forward to the offline desktop version and artx import options.

Thanks!

This is great news and I am really looking forward to the offline desktop version and artx import options. Thanks!
Support Team
Support Team posted this 17 April 2015

Hello

Here is how it works:

article-headings2.png

Page Title control (Themler Insert >> Other) which creates h1 tag and uses Joomla menu item title or Browser Page Title (Page Display tab) if defined.
Posts Header creates h2 tag and uses Joomla Page Heading.
Post Header creates h2 tag and uses Article title.

You can check how it works on our cloud. Themler demo is free and unlimited except saving. You can't save changes in trial.

Please let us know if you have any other questions.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hello Here is how it works: !article-headings2.png! **Page Title** control (Themler Insert >> Other) which creates h1 tag and uses Joomla menu item title or Browser Page Title (Page Display tab) if defined. **Posts Header** creates h2 tag and uses Joomla Page Heading. **Post Header** creates h2 tag and uses Article title. You can check how it works on our cloud. Themler demo is free and unlimited except saving. You can't save changes in trial. Please let us know if you have any other questions. Thank you, Olivia
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DaveOzric
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DaveOzric posted this 16 April 2015

  1. I assume that you mean Single Article layout, right?
    By default Article title is h2. If you need h1 tag on the page you can add Page Title control (Themler Insert >> Other) which creates h1 tag. Then hide Article title in Joomla.

Thank you,
Olivia

Just to be clear. no I do not mean Single Article. I am talking about Page Heading.

So your reference to Page Title control will make the Joomla Page Heading an H1 and the Article titles will be H2?

Thanks

> 2. I assume that you mean Single Article layout, right? > By default Article title is h2. If you need h1 tag on the page you can add **Page Title** control (Themler **Insert** >> **Other**) which creates h1 tag. Then hide Article title in Joomla. > > Thank you, > Olivia Just to be clear. no I do not mean Single Article. I am talking about Page Heading. So your reference to Page Title control will make the Joomla Page Heading an H1 and the Article titles will be H2? Thanks
DaveOzric
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DaveOzric posted this 16 April 2015

Hello, I actually want the article title to show and be the H2. Joomla has an option for Page Heading which can be used for the browser tab title tag and also display on the page. This is what I would want to be an H1 and be there along with the article title. It's sole purpose is for the H1 page tag on each page to be set if you want.

So can this be done? This is the advanced SEO option Joomla has built in and needs to be available for Themler. I can provide more detailed information if needed.

Side note. The page heading option on the Joomla menu item also has an "Alternate" Page Heading field so you can have a different page title tag (browser tab) and the page heading in the content. Very slick but needs to be H1 while articles must remain H2 which is correct now.

If the above method is what you are talking about then that's great. Artisteer has them combined as post header and cannot be separated into a H1 and H2 from what I can tell. Big problem for me and others.

Glad to hear you changed the headline to h3!!

Thanks

Hello, I actually want the article title to show and be the H2. Joomla has an option for Page Heading which can be used for the browser tab title tag and also display on the page. This is what I would want to be an H1 and be there along with the article title. It's sole purpose is for the H1 page tag on each page to be set if you want. So can this be done? This is the advanced SEO option Joomla has built in and needs to be available for Themler. I can provide more detailed information if needed. Side note. The page heading option on the Joomla menu item also has an "Alternate" Page Heading field so you can have a different page title tag (browser tab) and the page heading in the content. Very slick but needs to be H1 while articles must remain H2 which is correct now. If the above method is what you are talking about then that's great. Artisteer has them combined as post header and cannot be separated into a H1 and H2 from what I can tell. Big problem for me and others. Glad to hear you changed the headline to h3!! Thanks
Support Team
Support Team posted this 16 April 2015

Hi Dave,

Sorry for the delay.

  1. Headline is H3.
  2. I assume that you mean Single Article layout, right?
    By default Article title is h2. If you need h1 tag on the page you can add Page Title control (Themler Insert >> Other) which creates h1 tag. Then hide Article title in Joomla.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi Dave, Sorry for the delay. 1. Headline is H3. 2. I assume that you mean Single Article layout, right? By default Article title is h2. If you need h1 tag on the page you can add **Page Title** control (Themler **Insert** >> **Other**) which creates h1 tag. Then hide Article title in Joomla. Thank you, Olivia
DaveOzric
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DaveOzric posted this 16 April 2015

This is a big deal if you want to be in contention with the big boys.

Hopefully the support team will respond with some information on how they are structuring the content tags in Themeler.

You must be aware and work with each CMS to implement the proper SEO techniques available.

All I am getting over at Artisteer is crickets on this question too. Is it really that difficult to answer a question.

This is a big deal if you want to be in contention with the big boys. Hopefully the support team will respond with some information on how they are structuring the content tags in Themeler. You must be aware and work with each CMS to implement the proper SEO techniques available. All I am getting over at Artisteer is crickets on this question too. Is it really that difficult to answer a question.
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