Why, Oh Why, Do You NOT Have Voice Over in Video Tutorials???

I totally agree I posted a similar comment as well in the "Themler Testimonial Request" post.

Thank you guys for your comments. We need such feedback and it helps us understand what we need.
The product was continually changing and we've never got to work on the final version of the video tutorials, but it's good to see such requests to prioritize our tasks.

Joe, we've deleted your other comment as it was off topic. Testimonial = recommendation, endorsement.

Last edited 03 August 2015 by Support Team

I personally dont need videos about making whole themes, I would like to see more narrowed video tutorials for some difficult and special options/controls.
To see what special magic can do Themler developers, and what possible can they pull out from different options/controls. It means zoomed in just one small part of theme where they try to achieve it, whole theme is not interresting. Anyway very beginners will never use those video tutorials for making whole themes simply because they dont know how. They will download finished theme and lose time on it.

• CMS Code control
• Hover Box control (specially examples to make different image hover efffects)
• Shortcode control
• Transitions option (have no clue how to use it)

I agree with Stagger Lee, disagree the tutorials need sound. I would rather see how to do it than listen to someone yabba-yabba. More tutorials on special stuff like how to make a block with posts of a spcific category, how to make various animated slides, etc. We already know how to build a theme, teach us the special functions and how powerful your software can be please. (Stagger Lee - good song by the way! LOL)

I think a clear over-view/fundamental tutorial is needed, and at a normal speed, with voice-over.
How is anyone supposed to be able to understand something they've never seen before and even more so, if the video is sped up?!

I think I should have waited a while before leaping in and buying a product that is very slow (even the desktop version with Intel i7, 16Gb RAM and SSD).

Last edited 06 August 2015 by The Island's Computer Guys

Hi,

We also do have some other tutorials in a normal speed. You can find them here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/BillionThemler/videos

Regarding the application working slow, please create the separate case and provide a bit more details about the problem. Also attach the log file from the Start >> Themler >> Themler Diagnostics Tool.

Sincerely,
Hella
BillionDigital Team

Hi All,

When analyzing how to approach the need for video tutorials, we encounter some dilemmas. It should be pretty straightforward to create a video for an end product like a plugin or a landing page. However, Themler is a design & development tool and therefore it is very open-ended, allowing you to create unlimited types of themes with various standard and non-standard features. Therefore even if we create thousands of tutorials and videos, everyone could say they cannot find a video about implementing specific feature(s) they need. Of course we can focus on explaining some features but some of them may be already obvious, while others not as useful. Therefore it could be beneficial to receive some "How To" requests from product users like you, so that we can address at least a few of those specific needs without guessing And to be more efficient we could produce such HowTo's much easier as short tutorials describing steps with screenshots. Sometimes custom code may also be needed and videos couldn't show or allow you to copy & paste specific code.

And believe it or not, we suck at teaching the best usage of Themler because developing tools is much different from using them. Users who use products like Artisteer and Themler utilize them much better than we do, because their job is NOT to use the product, but to achieve their goal. If they don't have Themler then they may use Notepad to achieve the same goal, but they know their goal and that's all they care about.
Themler is a just a tool, like a paintbrush, and in the right hands it can be used to achieve amazing results. While paintbrush manufacturers don't really know how painters use their paintbrushes...
And for example some great designers can be more skilled than us at creating amazing designs, while simply taking advantage of tools like Themler to achieve their goals. They also come up with tricks and solutions we may not think of.
Look at filmmakers who started putting video cameras on drones, dollies, levers and cars, extending their lenses and adding filters - all to address their needs and not allow the camera to limit them. While the camera instructions and video tutorials simply say "please hold the camera steady and press the Record button". Do you really think that camera manufacturers like Canon make the best films...? Nope, only great filmmakers make great films. Camera manufacturers actually hire those filmmakers to demonstrate how they'd use the camera. And then the camera manufacturers learn what else a good filmmaker may need that the camera doesn't support yet.

Therefore we are also interested in hiring some of our users/customers to produce videos and tutorials for us and for all of you, on how to get the most out of Themler. And most of our customers use Themler to make money, therefore let's help some of you make money. If you created great themes with Themler, please send an email to us at proposals@themler.com with your portfolio and what you could do for us and our user community, especially in terms of producing tutorials and videos.

Thank you

Last edited 06 August 2015 by Support Team

I'd be happy to produce some videos for you. A thought or two for you: no matter how great your software is "under the hood" your prospective buyer does not know about that and probably cares less.

Artisteer is a classic example of this. Artisteer suffered for its entire history from exceedingly hostile reviews (on LinkedIn particularly) from coders/programmers/CSS guys. I have used Artisteer since it was available and know it very well... thanks to my persistence. I have tried to nudge Artisteer into making tutorials but they just won't do it. And, the hostile/negative comments on LinkedIn about Artisteer went unanswered except, perhaps, by me.

What tutorials were available were on YouTube and done by all sorts of people. Most of the tutorials were for way older versions than the currently available version and most were just awful. I am not referring to "classy and PR'y oriented" displays but just to a plane-old clear headed approach to how to use the program.

When I say "class'y and PR'y oriented" I refer you to Morten, a teacher at www.lynda.com who teaches WordPress and WooCommerce (WooC). His tutorials are NOT glitzy, they are just clear-headed and VERY helpful to get oneself off and running with something. This was especially true of his WooC tutorials where I learned how to do WooC's variable pricing which is something you will not stumble onto on your own. That is one of WooC's most valuable features and it lurks there unused because one just cannot stumble into how to use it - you MUST be shown and TOLD how to do it the first time. (Trouble being that how to use it is a step by step conditional setup where what you choose in step 1 sets up what you see on menu as available on step 3... etc.)

I have watched LinkedIn forums try to tell you that WooC CANNOT do variable pricing well or at all and they are all wrong. But, someone just has to SHOW AND TELL you how to do it.

For a one-time fee of $25 I suggest you sign up at Lynda.Com and watch Morten's WordPress and WooC tutorials. They will help you to see how valuable (not glitzy and PR'y) tutorials can work.

Then, when hiring anyone to help you produce tutorials keep Morten's approach in mind. He's is well loved and well commented upon by lots of people...!!!

Also, do NOT use YouTube to display your tutorials. Once produced they certainly can be placed on YouTube. But, play them from either Vimeo or ScreenCast. ScreenCast is https://www.techsmith.com 's video server service which is built into Camtasia Studio (tutorial authoring program sold by TechSmith) and they play EXACTLY what you send up with no down-sampling and no Ads placed on your tutorials. Use them (or Vimeo if you want) to serve up the tutorials and NOT YouTube. Do not attempt to down-sample your videos to make smaller files. Nowadays bandwidth is fine to carry high quality videos. Reason being that your tutorials have to be viewed FULL SCREEN to work well and then a down-sampled (usually w-a-y too compressed) video displays text, menus, and words as a blur. NOT good!

• Your tutorials can serve to reduce tech-support questions/answers a lot.
• Your tutorials become very effect pre-sales tools to show users how to use their pending purchase.
• Your tutorials show how much you care about your product and care about us guys who use it to make some money.
• Your tutorials do the one thing that great coder/programmers fail to do: EXPLAIN how to use their creations to people who are NOT coder/programmers. Coder/Programmers are just awful explainers.

Here Is the BIG Idea For You

You work to create 100's of short, mini-tutorials only a few minutes each and each one on a specific focus. Those tutorials are hot-linked to your program which has SHOW ME buttons all over the place in your program. So these SHOW ME buttons are located on each feature or option and SHOW and TELL a user what this is, what it is for, how to use it, and can show a brief example of what it does. These are very short and not glitzy at all.

Of course the MINI-SHOW-ME tutorials have to play in a popup window so as not to lose where you were in the program and what you were doing. Keep in mind how Morten on Lynda.Com shows things as to how to proceed. No music, not PR'y stuff, just plain old down-to-earth HOW-TO and WHY mini-videos which are context sensitive and linked to their proper context-location in your program. Do this and you JUMP w-a-y ahead of your competition... W-A-Y ahead of them.

Also, you really should look at: https://www.wpbeaverbuilder.com/ - these guys have outdone themselves on design for WP. They placed all design and functionality options on a page-by-page basis in their plugin and NOT in the theme itself. That enables a designer to make all pages unique and different without returning to the theme to do it. Also, note their "try demo" button and while they too have a hard time doing tutorials but they have, nonetheless, introduced the use of the program through step by step process.

I have used Artisteer for years and love the program and that is the basis for my comments to you.
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Yes, the biggest trouble with making video tutorials is that you have "PLATFORM TECHNOLOGY" as opposed to "APPLICATION TECHNOLOGY".

As in: Windows is platform technology. Excel is platform technology. And QuickBooks is application technology. You cannot push this metaphor too far as each example does sort of do both...

So, with platform technology you need 1 or 2 longer tutorials saying precisely how the PLATFORM works without getting into anything about how to use some feature or other.

For instance, Artisteer is a stand alone program which works on your PC and it creates themes (for WordPress + others) and it creates ZIP files to import into WordPress to affect the design you created off line and NOT like a plugin within WordPress. Now we know that we have a stand alone program vs. a plugin which works within WordPress.

That sets the overview and where and how it works in my environment. (Artisteer, that is.)

So, Themler combines both design and functionality together into one offline program operating on your PC and creates themes for subsequent importing into WordPress... Right???

Themler is still not clear to me whether it is a stand alone program or web based program working in the browser. If it works within the browser then that is another kettle of fish because design programs that work IN the browser really get goofy (as in Constant Contact never ending screw ups with what you see is NOT what you get and if you change it then you wind up with conflicting code... etc.)

Without a "Platform-Oriented" tutorial you leave it to me (user) to play around to get/understand it. Versus, just coming out and telling me. As in "telling" not just "showing."

Then you work down into how the "Application" works. Usually that is made up of a bunch of 7-10 minute how-to's for a specific topic. Best not to try to give an Application Tutorial with a big overview because you will get stuck on how to do it. Any Application Overview gets confusing because it is hard to know where to start.

For instance: QuickBooks could have a lot of specific individual tutorials on how to do this or that but an overview gets confusing because it gets stuck with what kind of user is this??? A Bakery??? A Consulting Company??? A Retail Website??? and each focus changes your approach. So, best to just stick with 7-10 minute specific "how-to's"
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I so agree with this as I usually code by hand using Notepad++ but decided to give Artisteer a try for quick websites which I could change some code if I need to or want something that Artisteer can not do. So now they say use Themler so I need to figure this all out. But trying to find any tutorials with some sound not just here but Youtube which have the same video's so again no sound. Drives me mental with no sound and just trying to keep up to see what they click on by looking.

You guys do know Youtube now has option to slow down video ?
You can make it play slower than natural tempo.

Thanks Guys.

sky, thank you for detailed answer.
We use Lynda.com, while each trainer creates video tutorials in their own style and may not accept or need to be taught how to teach. And we're not looking for someone that needs to be taught (because then the teacher would be the one creating videos), but know how to help us and our customers.
Yes, we do need to create tutorials and "we" means someone who can create them well. Therefore we're still looking for someone capable who is looking for extra work. If you or anyone else is interested, please let us know at proposals@themler.com . Your video sample(s) would be appreciated.

I agree, voice on the videos would help me significantly to understand what is going on. As they are, I have to watch them many times in slow motion because there is no voice explaining what is happening and as I get more frustrated I get more annoyed with the sound of the whistler who doesn't seem understand that life is hard! :-)

The sound effects at https://efektydzwiekowe.com can help make your video project more lively.

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