Pages cannot be customized separately

Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 07 August 2015

Dont know if it is only my Artisteer converted Theme or. If you want theme as attachment make this topic private.

  • I made new Page template "Contact".
  • Made some CMS Code block, shortcode block
  • Posts and Sidebars tabs have "Customized this template" clicked.

  • I make new one called "Links".

  • Controls from "Contact" are copied there and deleting them delete controls in "Contact" too.
  • All controles are copied to native Page template.

  • If I mark whole container with all post content things to delete I get warning if I want to delete only for this template or for all shared templates.

  • I chose only this template, it is deleted on all Page templates.

I am trying to delete post content and insert new one to see if controls will be copied again, but cannot get to this part of work now.

Dont know if it is only my Artisteer converted Theme or. If you want theme as attachment make this topic private. - I made new Page template "Contact". - Made some CMS Code block, shortcode block - Posts and Sidebars tabs have "Customized this template" clicked. - I make new one called "Links". - Controls from "Contact" are copied there and deleting them delete controls in "Contact" too. - All controles are copied to native Page template. - If I mark whole container with all post content things to delete I get warning if I want to delete only for this template or for all shared templates. - I chose only this template, it is deleted on all Page templates. I am trying to delete post content and insert new one to see if controls will be copied again, but cannot get to this part of work now.
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Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 07 August 2015

Shaul, your video is corrupted. Seem as server doesnt accept this file format, or is to big in size.

OK, I see now, I thought it was rar with a theme.

Shaul, your video is corrupted. Seem as server doesnt accept this file format, or is to big in size. OK, I see now, I thought it was rar with a theme.

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Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 07 August 2015

I know what it could be damn it. Maybe, just maybe.

When you click on CMS Code block od Shortcode block left options open fields for entering values.

it could be, maybe, maybe, maybe, that trying to use copy/paste code from Dreamveawer, text file, some other website accidentally Themler records one copy as copy Themler block/control. And when you somewhere else use much of copy/paste of custom code/shortcodes it assume you want to paste shared control.

At the end it is very easy to miss on keyboard when using Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V. I do it often normally.

That is why we need more robust options for removing shared controls. Right click on it and on/off switch for templates shows, or something similar.

I know what it could be damn it. Maybe, just maybe. When you click on CMS Code block od Shortcode block left options open fields for entering values. it could be, maybe, maybe, maybe, that trying to use copy/paste code from Dreamveawer, text file, some other website accidentally Themler records one copy as copy Themler block/control. And when you somewhere else use much of copy/paste of custom code/shortcodes it assume you want to paste shared control. At the end it is very easy to miss on keyboard when using Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V. I do it often normally. That is why we need more robust options for removing shared controls. Right click on it and on/off switch for templates shows, or something similar.

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Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 07 August 2015

Here is example. Same is about all controls accepting your custom text/code. CMS Code. Shortcode, text, HTML.
But it still cannot explain all strange problems.

http://attachments.answers.billiondigital.com/671/3671/2015-08-07-222129.jpg

Here is example. Same is about all controls accepting your custom text/code. CMS Code. Shortcode, text, HTML. But it still cannot explain all strange problems. ![http://attachments.answers.billiondigital.com/671/3671/2015-08-07-222129.jpg][1] [1]: http://attachments.answers.billiondigital.com/671/3671/2015-08-07-222129.jpg
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 07 August 2015

Same is for situation when you try to copy one Shortcode code from one template and want it paste on other template as start snippet for customizing. It can accidentally copy control, instead of Shortcode code.

It would be good to hear from one developer what he/she thinks about it.

I would not mind it if it would be easy to remove shared control, without deleting template and losing work.
Some kind of popup with warning that control is being copied, and confirmation message, would be good.

Same is for situation when you try to copy one Shortcode code from one template and want it paste on other template as start snippet for customizing. It can accidentally copy control, instead of Shortcode code. It would be good to hear from one developer what he/she thinks about it. I would not mind it if it would be easy to remove shared control, without deleting template and losing work. Some kind of popup with warning that control is being copied, and confirmation message, would be good.

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Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 07 August 2015

It still cannot explain why controls are shared directly when making new Page template. I dont use keyboard then.

Sorry for making so much comments. But it is so complicated and I feel it is more easy to follow if it is not all in one comments.

Specially when several strange phenomena is involved.

It still cannot explain why controls are shared directly when making new Page template. I dont use keyboard then. Sorry for making so much comments. But it is so complicated and I feel it is more easy to follow if it is not all in one comments. Specially when several strange phenomena is involved.
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 08 August 2015

Gave up last night on inserting new row.
It is really funny what happens with this theme, I never had so much problems on any of them.

  • I copied one row with one column, inside is a slider with horizontal menu in same column, from Home template to the custom Page template.
  • I am working on second Page template, and when I try to Insert (new) blank row, it gives me inside this row again slider and menu.
  • Have no chance to bypass it and work further.

  • Will try today, maybe cache released it.

  • Tried Incognito mode in Chrome to remove all cache, same problem.
  • Seems as it is same fast, if not faster, when disabling browser cache and working in Themler, what really surprized me. But it is another story.

Yes, it is one converted Artisteer theme, but I dont think it has anything to do with it. Before I worked on 3-4 converted and went very smooth.

In short Themler remembers what I copied last time and insist on it all the time.

Gave up last night on inserting new row. It is really funny what happens with this theme, I never had so much problems on any of them. - I copied one row with one column, inside is a slider with horizontal menu in same column, from Home template to the custom Page template. - I am working on second Page template, and when I try to Insert (new) blank row, it gives me inside this row again slider and menu. - Have no chance to bypass it and work further. - Will try today, maybe cache released it. - Tried Incognito mode in Chrome to remove all cache, same problem. - Seems as it is same fast, if not faster, when disabling browser cache and working in Themler, what really surprized me. But it is another story. Yes, it is one converted Artisteer theme, but I dont think it has anything to do with it. Before I worked on 3-4 converted and went very smooth. In short Themler remembers what I copied last time and insist on it all the time.

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Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 08 August 2015

Themler is not usable if it stays this way. To huge risk.
Just deleted one container and popup asked me if I want to delete on this template or on all shared. I chosed only on this and now I dont have anymore complete code and styling on other Page template.

Al work lost in wind. Everything needs to be maid again. Should we be afraid all the time when working in Themler ?

How can deleting one Post header in a Page template delete Post header in a Blog/Archive template !!?? Despite they are never shared or similar.

You will face mass of support questions now when people pass this "install" and "introduction" line. You have luck for now they dont use Themler much advanced.

Themler is not usable if it stays this way. To huge risk. Just deleted one container and popup asked me if I want to delete on this template or on all shared. I chosed only on this and now I dont have anymore complete code and styling on other Page template. Al work lost in wind. Everything needs to be maid again. Should we be afraid all the time when working in Themler ? How can deleting one Post header in a Page template delete Post header in a Blog/Archive template !!?? Despite they are never shared or similar. You will face mass of support questions now when people pass this "install" and "introduction" line. You have luck for now they dont use Themler much advanced.
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 08 August 2015

Ah, copy state released from memory, or from whatever. After more than 12 hours I can continue to work. :)
I can insert blank row now.

Those JSON files seem to have its own party and life on its own.
Or it is something important placed in Themler servers ?

Ah, copy state released from memory, or from whatever. After more than 12 hours I can continue to work. :) I can insert blank row now. Those JSON files seem to have its own party and life on its own. Or it is something important placed in Themler servers ?
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 09 August 2015

Of course it came back.

And each new custom template I make has some of the controls from previous custom templates. If I remove them it is removed on other template as well. Themler treats it as shared controls, dont know why.

And what to do now. This theme is so stupid. With all bugs and problems before not even close to problems on this one.
It is Artisteer converted theme, but I dont believe it is problem there.

You cannot relax and work when you before each important Save have to go back and check all templates to see if something is deleted.

Of course it came back. And each new custom template I make has some of the controls from previous custom templates. If I remove them it is removed on other template as well. Themler treats it as shared controls, dont know why. And what to do now. This theme is so stupid. With all bugs and problems before not even close to problems on this one. It is Artisteer converted theme, but I dont believe it is problem there. You cannot relax and work when you before each important Save have to go back and check all templates to see if something is deleted.
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 09 August 2015

  • Default template switch to the custom Arhive template.

  • Disabled all plugins, permalinks and my own custom functions.php code. All the same.

- Default template switch to the custom Arhive template. - Disabled all plugins, permalinks and my own custom functions.php code. All the same.
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 09 August 2015

Can it be new "allow_template_duplicate" function ?
When I removed it temporary I lost abillity to Add new Page templates.

Maybe is something wrong with this and adding new template treats as try to duplicate ?

Can it be new **"allow_template_duplicate"** function ? When I removed it temporary I lost abillity to Add new Page templates. Maybe is something wrong with this and adding new template treats as try to duplicate ?
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 09 August 2015

I replicated bug with copy/paste and share on other theme. When action is done it ruins styling on source template. In this case was it menu.

I replicated bug with copy/paste and share on other theme. When action is done it ruins styling on source template. In this case was it menu.
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 11 August 2015

I experienced this problem now on second theme. Inserting new row paste also some controls from other template.
Fast not so often, just once. Not so many times as on first theme.

Problem is I cannot bypass it. Just wait for some miracle. Or try some other magic with other block/control, what is hard.

I experienced this problem now on second theme. Inserting new row paste also some controls from other template. Fast not so often, just once. Not so many times as on first theme. Problem is I cannot bypass it. Just wait for some miracle. Or try some other magic with other block/control, what is hard.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 12 August 2015

Hello Stagger Lee,
I apologize for delay in response.
It'd be really helpful if you create a short video or set of screenshots which covers the steps you followed to reproduce the problem?
You cooperation is greatly appreciated.

regards,
Aileen

Hello Stagger Lee, I apologize for delay in response. It'd be really helpful if you create a short video or set of screenshots which covers the steps you followed to reproduce the problem? You cooperation is greatly appreciated. regards, Aileen
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 12 August 2015

Cannot force it, shows by itself without any reason. And it doesnt show on default (Cloud). So it has to be something happens after long use and many clicks.

I can make screenshots on Cloud how this happens. Dont know reason.

Seems as I am away from computer, or away from editing in Themler some longer time, use forward is OK, That is why I suspect AppCache and some weird things in memory. But wont help hard resset of browser, I guess your servers use AppCache or some other cache management to speed up things and communication.

Cannot force it, shows by itself without any reason. And it doesnt show on default (Cloud). So it has to be something happens after long use and many clicks. I can make screenshots on Cloud how this happens. Dont know reason. Seems as I am away from computer, or away from editing in Themler some longer time, use forward is OK, That is why I suspect AppCache and some weird things in memory. But wont help hard resset of browser, I guess your servers use AppCache or some other cache management to speed up things and communication.
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 12 August 2015

Chech on your cloud, dont want to open new topic. Seems as bug. Open Home template and under Post tab, try to set it as default. It ends in "Error occured...."

Chech on your cloud, dont want to open new topic. Seems as bug. Open Home template and under Post tab, try to set it as default. It ends in "Error occured...."
Support Team
Support Team posted this 13 August 2015

Hello Stagger,
I found that you attached the theme in topic http://answers.themler.com/questions/18774/teamviewer-access and we'll review it.
Do you mean that the bug you reported in your last post is reproducible there or do you have any other problems with this theme?

And the reported crash is reproducible on the default theme on cloud. I'm reporting it to developers.

Regards,
Aileen

Hello Stagger, I found that you attached the theme in topic http://answers.themler.com/questions/18774/teamviewer-access and we'll review it. Do you mean that the bug you reported in your last post is reproducible there or do you have any other problems with this theme? And the reported crash is reproducible on the default theme on cloud. I'm reporting it to developers. Regards, Aileen
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 13 August 2015

Yes it is this theme. Check those JSON files, it is a black hole for me. And if you can check what this theme pulled from your servers, if all is OK. You have logs I suppose.

It has nothing to do with my last post and error on "Set as default". I want to keep that problem away from this. It is already reported on other topic.

Yes it is this theme. Check those JSON files, it is a black hole for me. And if you can check what this theme pulled from your servers, if all is OK. You have logs I suppose. It has nothing to do with my last post and error on "Set as default". I want to keep that problem away from this. It is already reported on other topic.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 15 August 2015

Hello Stagger Lee,
I apologize for delay in response.
Do you mean that attached theme demonstrates the issue

I replicated bug with copy/paste and share on other theme. When action
is done it ruins styling on source template. In this case was it menu.

?
It seems that I messed a bit with different issues.

Regards,
Aileen

Hello Stagger Lee, I apologize for delay in response. Do you mean that attached theme demonstrates the issue > I replicated bug with copy/paste and share on other theme. When action > is done it ruins styling on source template. In this case was it menu. ? It seems that I messed a bit with different issues. Regards, Aileen
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 15 August 2015

Everything is in atatched screenshots and theme on private topic.

Everything is in atatched screenshots and theme on private topic.
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