Joomla 4 support is available in Beta

Great!!!!! Many thank's for your Work to this time...

But: how can i modify a existing template, created with themler that is work in joomla 4?

I have open a template (v541) in Themler Desktop and i have updated this template to 544. When i will work in joomla with themler on this template, i received an error message (see image attached)...

Last edited 16 November 2021 by matrix630307

Great news!!
I to - how can i modify a existing template from Joomla 3 versions and Themler for Joomla 3?
That process to update Joomla to 4 version? I need to update Themler to 544 version and after this I can to update Joomla?
And small question:- any new options in new Themler?

Thank you!

Last edited 16 November 2021 by pdg.design

Hello,

At the moment conversion of Joomla 3 themes to Joomla 4 is not possible yet. Joomla 4 theme differs from Joomla 3 theme significantly, so they cannot be used for each other.

In new Themler despite of Joomla 4 support there are no major changes.

Sincerely,
Nettie

SO, we can not to update Joomla 3 to 4? If I want to upgrade my site to Joomla 4 - I will need to build new template ??
This new version of Themler only for new sites, based on Joomla4?
Will to be option to convert old templates to Joomla 4?
Thank you.

What is the reason to start new project with old Bootstrap 3 framework (almost 10 year old), old PHP, and old jQuery? How can we told to our customers, that we use such old tech? Also Bootstrap 3 will freeze websites on Joomla 4, as we need to load fresh Bootstrap 5 and old Bootstrap 3 just because of Themler...

OK. So - to sum up all the bad news. This is easy for users who happen to come to this page (I'm assuming that Themler will then simply delete this entry - but what the heck - it's just a fact):
- no chance to upgrade templates vom joomla 3 to joomla 4 (all templates must be made new!!!!)
- no Bootstrap 5 (only Bootstrap 3, that is almost 10 year old)
- no php 8 (only older Versions)
- old jQuery
- no notable developments in themler for years
- sensational offer to switch from themler to nicepage (one tries to get the users away from themler - why!:)
I think and now really believe that themler is finally "dead" ...
Really: a shame - I really enjoyed working with Themler!

Support is here?

• no php 8 (only older Versions)
  PHP 8 support is ready.

Last edited 17 November 2021 by pdg.design

I get error on my test Joomla site after installing Themler for J4.
Please see attach files -front and backend
Thank you

Last edited 17 November 2021 by pdg.design

Thanks very much.
For our customer websites, I definitely need a way to upgrade Themler-Templates from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4.
Thank you.

Thorsten
Werbeagentur Schulz-Design

Hello,

We could understand that the templates have to be redone if there were major evolutions in this new version of Themler, but this is not the case.

If Themler remains unchanged, we should at least be able to update our theme for Joomla 4 compatibility.
Are you going to deploy this in the short term or never?

Thank you.

Regards,

Pierre

Pierre I too!

It work fresh installed Joomla 4, but not work after upgrade Joomla from 3 version.
We can not to update Joomla 3 to 4? If I want to upgrade my site to Joomla 4 - I will need to build new template ??

Will to be option to convert old templates to Joomla 4?
Thank you.

We keep it at its word. We have it in your reply that you will continue to support Themler. We cannot imagine that we will be rebuilding dozens of themes on the pages because the support for Themler has ended. Such a reconstruction of motives is temporarily impossible ...

In that case, once again, my simple query in this post, to which no one has answered us yet, and I see that you are answering in this post. When will we get the update to:

1.php8
2. bootstrap 5
3. new jQuery

I am asking for a clear answer. When are you going to update Themler.

Hello,

Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates.
However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes):
- organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip
- there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling

Sincerely,
Nettie

Last edited 18 November 2021 by Support Team

Its a finish...

Hello,

Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates.
However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes):
- organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip
- there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling

Sincerely,
Nettie

Hello,

Yes actually it would be too expensive for you to develop the automatic feature so we have to do it by hand.

I’d be willing to do this by hand if there were any evolutionary prospects for Themler in the future, but we all understood that you’ll leave him to be abandoned.

I will keep Themler in a state of emergency and in transition, but I will have to find another sustainable solution.

That’s too bad. I don’t know how you can fall asleep at night! I couldn’t! Your business model and your relationship with humans remain a mystery to me.

Thank you for all the work you’ve done.

Nice day.

Sincerely,

Pierre

Hello,

Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates.
However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes):
- organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip
- there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling

Sincerely,
Nettie

Hello,

Yes actually it would be too expensive for you to develop the automatic feature so we have to do it by hand.

I’d be willing to do this by hand if there were any evolutionary prospects for Themler in the future, but we all understood that you’ll leave him to be abandoned.

I will keep Themler in a state of emergency and in transition, but I will have to find another sustainable solution.

That’s too bad. I don’t know how you can fall asleep at night! I couldn’t! Your business model and your relationship with humans remain a mystery to me.

Thank you for all the work you’ve done.

Nice day.

Sincerely,

Pierre

That's all - for me too!
I wish you all the best and say goodby here by themler. That was it....

Last edited 19 November 2021 by matrix630307

Hello,

Sorry to hear this indeed. We see your point. However we are not sure if another software for creating themes can manage conversion between these two Joomla versions, because it will be similar to converting themes from one CMS to another CMS. We hope that you will consider creating new themes in Joomla 4. Currently we are working at finetuning the existing version to make it Stable and hoping you will enjoy it.

Sincerely,
Nettie

That's all - for me too! I wish you all the best and say goodby here
by themler. That was it....

Yep. This day came. Joining and wish good luck to team. Themler was revolutionary product at one time. Now it's time to move forward. I want to say thank you to developers and especially to support team... they helped many times since Artiseer.

Hello,

Sorry to hear this indeed. We see your point. However we are not sure
if another software for creating themes can manage conversion between
these two Joomla versions, because it will be similar to converting
themes from one CMS to another CMS....

Sincerely, Nettie

Well... I know many software that can do it, but can't name it here due to your strange Policy.

Here is a proof (quotes where I delete software name regarding to your policy... that no democratic BTW :) )

[software_name] #1 - Quote from Blog

Finally, the new major version of Joomla is here. Joomla 4 has been completely redesigned, rethought and of course supplemented with new features. Making [software_name] ready for Joomla 4 was more of a long term task. Since its first beta releases we started adjusting different parts of [software_name] to make the final implementation as smooth as possible. And today with [software_name] you can upgrade to Joomla 4 with just a click. Everything in [software_name] will work like a charm.

Added on September 9, 2021

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[software_name] #2 - Quote from Blog

Finally, Joomla 4 is available for download and update. Already thinking about upgrading your sites to Joomla 4? And look for how to update to Joomla 4? This tip is exactly for you! We will show that the upgrade process with installed [software_name] is safe and easy. Enjoy the new features of Joomla 4 today!

Before we start, we want to note that the latest versions of [software_name] are compatible with Joomla 4.

Added on 20 August 2021

...

I can add more software names here... but no reason to do this as I can't name it regarding to your policy. And please note. that other companies make possible to upgrade their software from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 on August / September...