Joomla 4 support is available in Beta

Support Team
Support Team posted this 15 November 2021

Good news! We have added support for Joomla 4 in Beta mode. To try Themler for Joomla 4, please follow the steps below:

  1. Download the default Themler theme for Joomla 4.

  2. Install it in your Joomla from Joomla admin >> Install >> Extensions.

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3. Go to System >> Templates >> Site Template Styles and activate the theme by clicking the star next to the theme name.

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  1. Click on the template name there (untitled) and click on the "Edit Template" button.

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Please note that Joomla 4 support is in Beta and thus minor issues are possible.

Note: Once the theme is loaded, you may need to update it to the latest Themler Beta version available, by clicking on "Updates (1)" notification* on the top. Please enable Beta update notifications in your Profile for this.
If there is no notification, you have the latest version - currently it is v.544.

Good news! We have added support for Joomla 4 in Beta mode. To try Themler for Joomla 4, please follow the steps below: 1. [Download][1] the default Themler theme for Joomla 4. 2. Install it in your Joomla from **Joomla admin** >> **Install** >> **Extensions**. !joomla4-1.png! 3. Go to **System** >> **Templates** >> **Site Template Styles** and activate the theme by clicking the star next to the theme name. !joomla4-2.png! 4. Click on the template name there (*untitled*) and click on the "Edit Template" button. !joomla4-3.png! Please note that Joomla 4 support is in Beta and thus minor issues are possible. Note: Once the theme is loaded, you may need to update it to the latest Themler Beta version available, by clicking on **"Updates (1)"** notification* on the top. Please enable Beta update notifications in your Profile for this. If there is no notification, you have the latest version - currently it is v.544. [1]: https://themler.io/Download/Joomla4

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GT-WebDesign
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GT-WebDesign posted this 19 November 2021

Hello,

Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates.
However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes):
- organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip
- there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling

Sincerely,
Nettie

It's a shame this conclusion after such a long time after introduction of Joomla 4 betta.
You lost ours and others confident and will never come back to your products Themler or Nicepage.

By Themler

> Hello, > > Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates. > However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes): > - organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip > - there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling > > Sincerely, > Nettie It's a shame this conclusion after such a long time after introduction of Joomla 4 betta. You lost ours and others confident and will never come back to your products Themler or Nicepage. By Themler
pdg.design
280 Posts
pdg.design posted this 19 November 2021

So.. We are need to find way for to do next step and to think, that to do with Joomla 3 sites. I work with themler many years and have more when 100 sites. That I need to do? Themler team, please answer here. Nice page have a bugs, I tried to build joomla 4 site and get few errors. Tickets was opened in Nicepage forum.
Thank you.

So.. We are need to find way for to do next step and to think, that to do with Joomla 3 sites. I work with themler many years and have more when 100 sites. That I need to do? Themler team, please answer here. Nice page have a bugs, I tried to build joomla 4 site and get few errors. Tickets was opened in Nicepage forum. Thank you.
matrix630307
162 Posts
matrix630307 posted this 22 November 2021

Hi
Is this Beta the last version from themler or you working on stable version??
At this time, with the beta is not working right - too many bugs. Error 404 and no chance to work with the template. See my
first post finding Bugs:
https://answers.themler.io/questions/212933/themler-j4-error-404-after-copy-j4-with-template
https://answers.themler.io/questions/212932/themler-j4-sidebar-not-work-proper
https://answers.themler.io/questions/212931/themler-j4-blog-layout-not-active-from-joomla-4
https://answers.themler.io/questions/212930/themler-j4-footer-not-to-bottom
https://answers.themler.io/questions/212768/themler-joomla-4-beta-menu-or-hmenu

Hi Is this Beta the last version from themler or you working on stable version?? At this time, with the beta is not working right - too many bugs. Error 404 and no chance to work with the template. See my first post finding Bugs: https://answers.themler.io/questions/212933/themler-j4-error-404-after-copy-j4-with-template https://answers.themler.io/questions/212932/themler-j4-sidebar-not-work-proper https://answers.themler.io/questions/212931/themler-j4-blog-layout-not-active-from-joomla-4 https://answers.themler.io/questions/212930/themler-j4-footer-not-to-bottom https://answers.themler.io/questions/212768/themler-joomla-4-beta-menu-or-hmenu
Support Team
Support Team posted this 22 November 2021

Hello,

This is Beta version and of course the improvements are to be done, then there will be more updates. We investigate each reported issue.

Sincerely,
Nettie

Hello, This is Beta version and of course the improvements are to be done, then there will be more updates. We investigate each reported issue. Sincerely, Nettie
ddobi
4 Posts
ddobi posted this 25 November 2021

Hello,
Is it possible to download this template with "Import from a Zip file ..." and modify whis the Thempler desktop editor?

Thank you

Hello, Is it possible to download this template with "Import from a Zip file ..." and modify whis the Thempler desktop editor? Thank you
Support Team
Support Team posted this 25 November 2021

Hello,

At the moment Joomla 4 cannot be used in Themler desktop. You will need to install the theme on a hosted website or on some localhost with Joomla 4.

Sincerely,
Nettie

Hello, At the moment Joomla 4 cannot be used in Themler desktop. You will need to install the theme on a hosted website or on some localhost with Joomla 4. Sincerely, Nettie
Werbeagentur Schulz-Design
78 Posts
Werbeagentur Schulz-Design posted this 25 November 2021

Hello,

Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates.
However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes):
- organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip
- there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling

Sincerely,
Nettie

I am appalled!

My agency has created over 50 websites with Joomla 3 and Themler - each one individually.
I can't afford to manually rebuild every website one by one, should it work at all. No customer would pay there either!
A solution has to be found!
As I said, I would contribute to the costs and I've read that others would too.
Don't let us hang! We trust in Themler.

Best regards Thorsten
Werbeagentur Schulz-Design

> Hello, > > Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates. > However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes): > - organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip > - there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling > > Sincerely, > Nettie I am appalled! My agency has created over 50 websites with Joomla 3 and Themler - each one individually. I can't afford to manually rebuild every website one by one, should it work at all. No customer would pay there either! A solution has to be found! As I said, I would contribute to the costs and I've read that others would too. Don't let us hang! We trust in Themler. Best regards Thorsten [Werbeagentur Schulz-Design][1] [1]: http://www.schulzdesign.info/webdesign-hannover
pdg.design
280 Posts
pdg.design posted this 25 November 2021

**Werbeagentur Schulz-Design **
I too!

**Werbeagentur Schulz-Design ** I too!
matrix630307
162 Posts
matrix630307 posted this 25 November 2021

Hello,

Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates.
However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes):
- organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip
- there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling

Sincerely,
Nettie

I am appalled!

My agency has created over 50 websites with Joomla 3 and Themler - each one individually.
I can't afford to manually rebuild every website one by one, should it work at all. No customer would pay there either!
A solution has to be found!
As I said, I would contribute to the costs and I've read that others would too.
Don't let us hang! We trust in Themler.

Best regards Thorsten
[Werbeagentur Schulz-Design][1]

[1]: http://www.schulzdesign.info/webdesign-hannover

hi advertising agency Schulz-Design (...and all other Themler users)
This is all to say: "Don't let us hang"!
I have also already written that I am willing to pay something for the development (outside of the subscription price).
Should a "vote" be created here so that we Themlers can express our readiness?

> > Hello, > > > > Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates. > > However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes): > > - organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip > > - there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling > > > > Sincerely, > > Nettie > > I am appalled! > > My agency has created over 50 websites with Joomla 3 and Themler - each one individually. > I can't afford to manually rebuild every website one by one, should it work at all. No customer would pay there either! > A solution has to be found! > As I said, I would contribute to the costs and I've read that others would too. > Don't let us hang! We trust in Themler. > > Best regards Thorsten > [Werbeagentur Schulz-Design][1] > > > [1]: http://www.schulzdesign.info/webdesign-hannover hi advertising agency Schulz-Design (...and all other Themler users) This is all to say: "Don't let us hang"! I have also already written that I am willing to pay something for the development (outside of the subscription price). Should a "vote" be created here so that we Themlers can express our readiness?
CATSS
15 Posts
CATSS posted this 25 November 2021

Hello,

Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates.
However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes):
- organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip
- there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling

Sincerely,
Nettie

I am appalled!

My agency has created over 50 websites with Joomla 3 and Themler - each one individually.
I can't afford to manually rebuild every website one by one, should it work at all. No customer would pay there either!
A solution has to be found!
As I said, I would contribute to the costs and I've read that others would too.
Don't let us hang! We trust in Themler.

Best regards Thorsten
[Werbeagentur Schulz-Design][1]

[1]: http://www.schulzdesign.info/webdesign-hannover

hi advertising agency Schulz-Design (...and all other Themler users)
This is all to say: "Don't let us hang"!
I have also already written that I am willing to pay something for the development (outside of the subscription price).
Should a "vote" be created here so that we Themlers can express our readiness?

**Werbeagentur Schulz-Design **
We too! Don't let us hang!

> > > Hello, > > > > > > Thank you all for your feedback. However at this point we are sorry for not bringing good news for you. Joomla 3 and Joomla 4 themes are different in such extent that it can be said as if they were different CMS from the code point of view. So unfortunately, conversion of existing themes from Joomla 3 to Joomla 4 is not possible and not expected in future updates. > > > However here are possible ways to make creating themes easier (if they are made to re-create old themes): > > > - organize controls in Sections and use Export as Zip option in the Section tab, then import them in a new theme using Import as Zip > > > - there are Export / Import options available in the Posts tab to transfer Posts layout and styling > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Nettie > > > > I am appalled! > > > > My agency has created over 50 websites with Joomla 3 and Themler - each one individually. > > I can't afford to manually rebuild every website one by one, should it work at all. No customer would pay there either! > > A solution has to be found! > > As I said, I would contribute to the costs and I've read that others would too. > > Don't let us hang! We trust in Themler. > > > > Best regards Thorsten > > [Werbeagentur Schulz-Design][1] > > > > > > [1]: http://www.schulzdesign.info/webdesign-hannover > > hi advertising agency Schulz-Design (...and all other Themler users) > This is all to say: "Don't let us hang"! > I have also already written that I am willing to pay something for the development (outside of the subscription price). > Should a "vote" be created here so that we Themlers can express our readiness? **Werbeagentur Schulz-Design ** We too! Don't let us hang!
pdg.design
280 Posts
pdg.design posted this 25 November 2021

I too!

I too!
matrix630307
162 Posts
matrix630307 posted this 25 November 2021

I too!

:)

> I too! :)
matrix630307
162 Posts
matrix630307 posted this 25 November 2021

i have created this:
Hope dies last ...
https://answers.themler.io/questions/213084/made-joomla-4-readyness-who-would-pay-for-it

voted please

i have created this: Hope dies last ... https://answers.themler.io/questions/213084/made-joomla-4-readyness-who-would-pay-for-it voted please
Виктор
105 Posts
Виктор posted this 26 November 2021

Поддерживаю!

Поддерживаю!
DaveOzric
943 Posts
DaveOzric posted this 30 November 2021

The new product I use for Joomla sites works on both Joomla 3 and Joomla 4. No redoing templates for every site.

The new product I use for Joomla sites works on both Joomla 3 and Joomla 4. No redoing templates for every site.
Vitaliy WD
501 Posts
Vitaliy WD posted this 04 December 2021

Joomla 4 support = Bootstrap 5 support

Please vote: Themler 2.0 with Bootstrap 5 and support only two CMS: Joomla 4 and WordPress 5

Joomla 4 support = Bootstrap 5 support -------------------------------------- Please vote: [Themler 2.0 with Bootstrap 5 and support only two CMS: Joomla 4 and WordPress 5][1] [1]: https://answers.themler.io/questions/214290/themler-2-0-with-bootstrap-5-and-support-only-two-cms-joomla-4-and-wordpress-5
devjohn307
1 Posts
devjohn307 posted this 06 December 2021

i am not sure but i think you can use in new version

i am not sure but i think you can use in new version
matrix630307
162 Posts
matrix630307 posted this 06 December 2021

Since any days we have version 544. No Bugfixes or other messages. In time, we have sent a lot of bugs in the beta. but nothing have a return. sorry - but themler is.... :(
I have beginning to change the thembuilder away from themler. Ten Site's working fine with my other framework. Themler was good and i love it. but in this time, what themler made with your users, is not fair and good....

Since any days we have version 544. No Bugfixes or other messages. In time, we have sent a lot of bugs in the beta. but nothing have a return. sorry - but themler is.... :( I have beginning to change the thembuilder away from themler. Ten Site's working fine with my other framework. Themler was good and i love it. but in this time, what themler made with your users, is not fair and good....
Vitaliy WD
501 Posts
Vitaliy WD posted this 06 December 2021

Since any days we have version 544. No Bugfixes or other messages. In time, we have sent a lot of bugs in the beta. but nothing have a return. sorry - but themler is.... :(
I have beginning to change the thembuilder away from themler. Ten Site's working fine with my other framework. Themler was good and i love it. but in this time, what themler made with your users, is not fair and good....

Absolutely agree and I come to same strategy - already use other framework... very sad to leave Themler, this was awesome software for its time (as Artisteer for its time, but not Nicepage unfortunately)...

> Since any days we have version 544. No Bugfixes or other messages. In time, we have sent a lot of bugs in the beta. but nothing have a return. sorry - but themler is.... :( > I have beginning to change the thembuilder away from themler. Ten Site's working fine with my other framework. Themler was good and i love it. but in this time, what themler made with your users, is not fair and good.... Absolutely agree and I come to same strategy - already use other framework... very sad to leave Themler, this was awesome software for its time (as Artisteer for its time, but not Nicepage unfortunately)...
matrix630307
162 Posts
matrix630307 posted this 06 December 2021

@Vitaliy WD:
yes - i "loved" themler in the last years. i have made many templates and the work with themler was nice. i cannot understand, that this software will not build for the future.
i have payed for nicepage and i have try this many times - but i have no result from this. no one template that works... very strange.
with the oder framework that i have found i hope, that i can made all sites new - but in this case - not with themler...

@Vitaliy WD: yes - i "loved" themler in the last years. i have made many templates and the work with themler was nice. i cannot understand, that this software will not build for the future. i have payed for nicepage and i have try this many times - but i have no result from this. no one template that works... very strange. with the oder framework that i have found i hope, that i can made all sites new - but in this case - not with themler...
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