Modules don't appear on all pages

Ian Shere
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Ian Shere posted this 16 October 2015

I have read about different pages having different template styles. I can see where this MIGHT be useful, but I have ever only wanted it once in my entire 6 years of designing.

Why can't templates act, by default, like Artisteer - they apply to ALL pages? This cockeyed approach in Themler is just plain annoying. How do I get modules (set to ALL pages) to actually appear on ALL pages? This is absurd.

The whole thrust of Themler seems to be taking the most unlikely and obscure use and making it the default action, forcing anyone needing a simple template to wade through a bunch of stuff to get it. Why?

I have read about different pages having different template styles. I can see where this MIGHT be useful, but I have ever only wanted it once in my entire 6 years of designing. Why can't templates act, by default, like Artisteer - they apply to ALL pages? This cockeyed approach in Themler is just plain annoying. How do I get modules (set to ALL pages) to actually appear on ALL pages? This is absurd. The whole thrust of Themler seems to be taking the most unlikely and obscure use and making it the default action, forcing anyone needing a simple template to wade through a bunch of stuff to get it. Why?

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Support Team
Support Team posted this 19 October 2015

Hi,

Themler theme consists of several templates (Ho,e Post, Page).
To make the control appear on all templates (all website pages) you should use special areas created to share controls between templates (header, Sidebars, Footer):
https://answers.themler.com/articles/4783/how-to-share-controls-between-different-templates

The work in the same way as in Artisteer. But in Themler you can disable these areas if specific templates and add controls outside these areas to create unique templates for specific content types.

Please keep us posted about the progress.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi, Themler theme consists of several templates (Ho,e Post, Page). To make the control appear on all templates (all website pages) you should use special areas created to share controls between templates (header, Sidebars, Footer): https://answers.themler.com/articles/4783/how-to-share-controls-between-different-templates The work in the same way as in Artisteer. But in Themler you can disable these areas if specific templates and add controls outside these areas to create unique templates for specific content types. Please keep us posted about the progress. Thank you, Olivia
Ian Shere
67 Posts
Ian Shere posted this 19 October 2015

OK - that makes some sense now. However, I have a whole bunch of positions outside the sidebar area and I cannot seem to move them inside it. I tried dragging and dropping on the main "Sidebars" entry under the "Home" tab (on the left) in Themler, but this doesn't work. I can only add to the left or right sidebars or existing rows. I really don't understand why this has been made so hard to do - it's a simple thing.

OK - that makes some sense now. However, I have a whole bunch of positions outside the sidebar area and I cannot seem to move them inside it. I tried dragging and dropping on the main "Sidebars" entry under the "Home" tab (on the left) in Themler, but this doesn't work. I can only add to the left or right sidebars or existing rows. I really don't understand why this has been made so hard to do - it's a simple thing.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 19 October 2015

Hi,

The Sidebars have orange frames.
Anyway, you can move controls in Outline:

move-row.png

Here I have Left Sidebar where I moved the Row.

Does it work on your side?
You should move the control inside one of the Sidebars (Left, right, bottom, etc).

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi, The Sidebars have orange frames. Anyway, you can move controls in Outline: !move-row.png! Here I have Left Sidebar where I moved the Row. Does it work on your side? You should move the control inside one of the Sidebars (Left, right, bottom, etc). Thank you, Olivia
move-row.png
Ian Shere
67 Posts
Ian Shere posted this 19 October 2015

If I do exactly what you show I end up with what should have been a row with 3 columns below the content now appearing in the left sidebar. I don't want this. I want it below the content. Then there's no way to drag it back to where it was. The only way is to use Undo.

So I opened a new template. I carefully made new rows inside the sidebar area (this is incredibly confusing terminology by the way - esp to ex-Artisteer users - SIDE means, well, SIDE!) themler02.jpg shows the Home template. So, accordign to the link you sent above, as these are in the Sidebar area, they should be repeated on all templates - wrong. See themler03.jpg

This is just basic stuff - why is it made so difficult?

If I do exactly what you show I end up with what should have been a row with 3 columns below the content now appearing in the left sidebar. I don't want this. I want it below the content. Then there's no way to drag it back to where it was. The only way is to use Undo. So I opened a new template. I carefully made new rows inside the sidebar area (this is incredibly confusing terminology by the way - esp to ex-Artisteer users - SIDE means, well, SIDE!) themler02.jpg shows the Home template. So, accordign to the link you sent above, as these are in the Sidebar area, they should be repeated on all templates - wrong. See themler03.jpg This is just basic stuff - why is it made so difficult?
Ian Shere
67 Posts
Ian Shere posted this 19 October 2015

OK MAYBE I've figured it out - again this is way more difficult than it need be. There are 4 "Sidebars". Left, right, top, bottom. There is also a master "Sidebar" area to which I added the rows previously. It seemed logical that this would appear on every page.

I suspect I need to add my rows to either one of the 4 sidebar areas, not the overall container for them to appear on every page. Yes, that works.

However, these are sheet width rows. What about the ones we had in Artisteer that were contained between the left and right sidebars? How do I add them to appear on every page?

OK MAYBE I've figured it out - again this is way more difficult than it need be. There are 4 "Sidebars". Left, right, top, bottom. There is also a master "Sidebar" area to which I added the rows previously. It seemed logical that this would appear on every page. I suspect I need to add my rows to either one of the 4 sidebar areas, not the overall container for them to appear on every page. Yes, that works. However, these are sheet width rows. What about the ones we had in Artisteer that were contained between the left and right sidebars? How do I add them to appear on every page?
Ian Shere
67 Posts
Ian Shere posted this 19 October 2015

NVM - Just answered my own question - just noticed the Above and Below Content sidebars.

NVM - Just answered my own question - just noticed the Above and Below Content sidebars.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 20 October 2015

Hi,

Please let us know if you need our further assistance in this case.

Sincerely,
Hella

Hi, Please let us know if you need our further assistance in this case. Sincerely, Hella
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