Beta Testing!

Support Team
Support Team posted this 08 January 2016

Hi everyone!

Interested in trying Themler pre-release Beta?
Now you can help us to make the next releases of Themler even better by test-driving pre-release versions and letting us know what you think.

How to participate?

  1. Access your profile and enable "Get Beta Updates" option:

    get-beta.png

  2. Click "Save Profile".

  3. Restart Themler and click "New Updates Available" option to get the latest update:
    update-themler.png

    Now you can start testing pre-release Themler update.
    NOTE: The updated theme will not be compatible with current Themler Stable. Therefore please keep the backup to be able to get back to the Themler Stable.
    To get back to Stable release simply disable "Get Beta Updates" option in your profile and use theme backup.

Please let us know about any issues that you encounter with pre-release update.

Thank you,
Themler Team

Hi everyone! Interested in trying Themler pre-release Beta? Now you can help us to make the next releases of Themler even better by test-driving pre-release versions and letting us know what you think. How to participate? 1. Access your profile and enable *"Get Beta Updates"* option: !get-beta.png! 2. Click "Save Profile". 2. Restart Themler and click "New Updates Available" option to get the latest update: !update-themler.png! Now you can start testing pre-release Themler update. **NOTE:** The updated theme will not be compatible with current Themler Stable. Therefore please keep the backup to be able to get back to the Themler Stable. To get back to Stable release simply disable *"Get Beta Updates"* option in your profile and use theme backup. Please [let us know][1] about any issues that you encounter with pre-release update. Thank you, Themler Team [1]: http://answers.themler.com/Topic/Create?private=1

Last edited 20 June 2016 by Support Team

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leonid2
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leonid2 posted this 21 May 2016

Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you.
Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens.

yes please, also my opinion

Ok, I think that we can bring it back.

> > Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you. > > Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens. > > yes please, also my opinion Ok, I think that we can bring it back.
Bayern
127 Posts
Bayern posted this 21 May 2016

Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you.
Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens.

yes please, also my opinion

> Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you. > Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens. yes please, also my opinion
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 21 May 2016

Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you.
Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens.

Hello Stagger,

Have you seen that all templates are actually available on the top of left navigation panel, together with pages and posts?
There we've also made the more quick way to navigate to Homepage/Home template with a single Home button.

Thanks,
Leo

I know, under File tab and left sidebar. But all people develop on huge screens, plenty of place at the top.

> > Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you. > > Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens. > > Hello Stagger, > > Have you seen that all templates are actually available on the top of left navigation panel, together with pages and posts? > There we've also made the more quick way to navigate to Homepage/Home template with a single Home button. > > Thanks, > Leo I know, under File tab and left sidebar. But all people develop on huge screens, plenty of place at the top.
leonid2
25 Posts
leonid2 posted this 21 May 2016

Some of the changes in new Beta:

Templates
• Allow exporting/importing content (pages, posts, images)

Ribbon UI:
• UI for Columns control reworked
• Join Layout tab and Insert tab on Ribbon
• Move Joomla Position, WP Widget Area and other on top of Insert tab and to "+" button
• Few bugs wixed with Bold/Italic and other edit font & paragrapth commands on Home tab
• Fixed - Logo Hyperlink in UI
• Ribbon collapsing on narrow screens instead of scrolling

Preview:
• Next/Prev buttons added to switch active slide in Preview
• Selection frame made bolder and more visible
• Fix translation of control names for non-English users to make consistent in Preview, Ribbon, Path and so on
• Highlight container control with dashed frame when hover on control within it
• FIX: don't show SCROLL when resize IMAGE inside Canvas or Slide container.

Other
• Remove Grid offset in Boxed mode between Slider and Slide
• Add button "Import from Zip" to Open theme dialog in Themler Desktop
• FIX: crash in Joomla when removing Store templates
• FIX: don't redirect on projects page after theme Update

Some of the changes in new Beta: Templates • Allow exporting/importing content (pages, posts, images) Ribbon UI: • UI for Columns control reworked • Join Layout tab and Insert tab on Ribbon • Move Joomla Position, WP Widget Area and other on top of Insert tab and to "+" button • Few bugs wixed with Bold/Italic and other edit font & paragrapth commands on Home tab • Fixed - Logo Hyperlink in UI • Ribbon collapsing on narrow screens instead of scrolling Preview: • Next/Prev buttons added to switch active slide in Preview • Selection frame made bolder and more visible • Fix translation of control names for non-English users to make consistent in Preview, Ribbon, Path and so on • Highlight container control with dashed frame when hover on control within it • FIX: don't show SCROLL when resize IMAGE inside Canvas or Slide container. Other • Remove Grid offset in Boxed mode between Slider and Slide • Add button "Import from Zip" to Open theme dialog in Themler Desktop • FIX: crash in Joomla when removing Store templates • FIX: don't redirect on projects page after theme Update
leonid2
25 Posts
leonid2 posted this 21 May 2016

Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you.
Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens.

Hello Stagger,

Have you seen that all templates are actually available on the top of left navigation panel, together with pages and posts?
There we've also made the more quick way to navigate to Homepage/Home template with a single Home button.

Thanks,
Leo

> Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you. > Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens. Hello Stagger, Have you seen that all templates are actually available on the top of left navigation panel, together with pages and posts? There we've also made the more quick way to navigate to Homepage/Home template with a single Home button. Thanks, Leo
Stagger Lee
1818 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 20 May 2016

Columns are now in % instead of regions.

Columns are now in % instead of regions.
Stagger Lee
1818 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 20 May 2016

Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you.
Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens.

Please bring back template switcher to the top bar. Thank you. Nobody develop websites with smartphones, stop experimenting unnecessary. There is a lot of space on all 15-17 " inch screens.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 19 April 2016

Hi,

Thanks for the feedback. Actually the issues may appear in any application part, so there is no need to test some specific function.

Sincerely,
Hella

Hi, Thanks for the feedback. Actually the issues may appear in any application part, so there is no need to test some specific function. Sincerely, Hella
LGWeb
146 Posts
LGWeb posted this 15 April 2016

Will do! Love what you do! I'm glad to assist.

Will do! Love what you do! I'm glad to assist.
webhostbuilder
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webhostbuilder posted this 13 April 2016

It would be nice to have a list of items that need testing

It would be nice to have a list of items that need testing
Stagger Lee
1818 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 14 March 2016

Same request; please provide changelog for beta updates. Preferably visible before I decide to update. You requested help for testing beta versions, but how can we help in providing feedback if we don't know what has been changed?

I know they are very bussy, but can only agree. I am just clicking update and update and have no clue what I am updating to.

Not that I live in fear, I trust them because not single one newly introduced bug ruined my theme or CMS installation, never so long. Just it would be nice to know what you are updating to.

Best solution would be as I suggested them long time ago. When clicking red circle for update small popup with bullet text and short explanation what we update to. Before we proceede.

Second problem is that you mention. If I dont know what is new and updated I cannot leave feedback if it works (I use Beta option).

> Same request; please provide changelog for beta updates. Preferably visible before I decide to update. You requested help for testing beta versions, but how can we help in providing feedback if we don't know what has been changed? > I know they are very bussy, but can only agree. I am just clicking update and update and have no clue what I am updating to. Not that I live in fear, I trust them because not single one newly introduced bug ruined my theme or CMS installation, never so long. Just it would be nice to know what you are updating to. Best solution would be as I suggested them long time ago. When clicking red circle for update small popup with bullet text and short explanation what we update to. Before we proceede. Second problem is that you mention. If I dont know what is new and updated I cannot leave feedback if it works (I use Beta option).
Jan-Willem
11 Posts
Jan-Willem posted this 13 March 2016

Same request; please provide changelog for beta updates. Preferably visible before I decide to update. You requested help for testing beta versions, but how can we help in providing feedback if we don't know what has been changed?

Same request; please provide changelog for beta updates. Preferably visible before I decide to update. You requested help for testing beta versions, but how can we help in providing feedback if we don't know what has been changed?
DaveOzric
935 Posts
DaveOzric posted this 09 March 2016

Any remote chance you can have a changelog for these beta updates for us testers to see? 3 or 4 updates have come out since the official one. Just wondering.

Any remote chance you can have a changelog for these beta updates for us testers to see? 3 or 4 updates have come out since the official one. Just wondering.
Stagger Lee
1818 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 02 March 2016

Solved.
Stupid, I had "define('DISALLOW_FILE_EDIT', true);" in wp-config.php.

Solved. Stupid, I had "define('DISALLOW_FILE_EDIT', true);" in wp-config.php.
Stagger Lee
1818 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 02 March 2016

I did theme isntalaltion with ZIP with Themler edit support and same problem. No Themler menu link no Theme options link.

Did you made some memory check ? I need many of those Theme options but seems they are connected to Themler editing part somehow.

I did theme isntalaltion with ZIP with Themler edit support and same problem. No Themler menu link no Theme options link. Did you made some memory check ? I need many of those Theme options but seems they are connected to Themler editing part somehow.
Stagger Lee
1818 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 02 March 2016

What did you do now ? Whole time was enough to transfer theme folder and preview folder to right place on server and it was all. Now WordPress doesnt recognize preview folder as theme and there is no Themler admin menu button.

If you changed something bring it back, Stupid to go via all those ZIP steps just to upload Theme with Themler editing part.

What did you do now ? Whole time was enough to transfer theme folder and preview folder to right place on server and it was all. Now WordPress doesnt recognize preview folder as theme and there is no Themler admin menu button. If you changed something bring it back, Stupid to go via all those ZIP steps just to upload Theme with Themler editing part.
Stagger Lee
1818 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 29 February 2016

So long I have not seen problems with Beta versions. Not in theme functionality anyway. Some options start to make problems maybe, but they can be reached from different ways, so not big problem there.

But I do agree it Beta testing should (Must) be an option on theme to theme basis. I can fix any problem no matter how tight deadline for website is, if nothing manually in code. Can only imagine what chaos would be for some beginner User, activating Beta versions, Beta version make fatal PHP error, and client want to see website tomorrow or tonight online, as agreeded.

Some projects has to be put outside Beta testing. I know it is very easy to go to profile and disable Beta testing when updating specific themes. But it is very easy to forget about it too. And never know if you have problem with theme because of Beta or stable version.

I lake your proposal to have 2 circle buttons in top bar, one for stable update, second for Beta update. One red, second with some other color. With different text on mouseover.

So long I have not seen problems with Beta versions. Not in theme functionality anyway. Some options start to make problems maybe, but they can be reached from different ways, so not big problem there. But I do agree it Beta testing should (Must) be an option on theme to theme basis. I can fix any problem no matter how tight deadline for website is, if nothing manually in code. Can only imagine what chaos would be for some beginner User, activating Beta versions, Beta version make fatal PHP error, and client want to see website tomorrow or tonight online, as agreeded. Some projects has to be put outside Beta testing. I know it is very easy to go to profile and disable Beta testing when updating specific themes. But it is very easy to forget about it too. And never know if you have problem with theme because of Beta or stable version. I lake your proposal to have 2 circle buttons in top bar, one for stable update, second for Beta update. One red, second with some other color. With different text on mouseover.
DaveOzric
935 Posts
DaveOzric posted this 28 February 2016

Hello, I would be happy to do this but not for production sites. Can you offer a way to turn this on for only some sites. Possibly in the Joomla backend for the template?

Or possibly show a "beta" indicator next to the update so it can be ignored.

I updated a couple sites to a beta not realizing I had this on and have a few new issues. Testing sites or non critical sites are fine for me to try beta versions.

Thanks

Hello, I would be happy to do this but not for production sites. Can you offer a way to turn this on for only some sites. Possibly in the Joomla backend for the template? Or possibly show a "beta" indicator next to the update so it can be ignored. I updated a couple sites to a beta not realizing I had this on and have a few new issues. Testing sites or non critical sites are fine for me to try beta versions. Thanks
Stagger Lee
1818 Posts
Stagger Lee posted this 15 February 2016

Aha OK. So you never patch Beta version with old version number. You add allways new number. Then it is more than OK.

Aha OK. So you never patch Beta version with old version number. You add allways new number. Then it is more than OK.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 15 February 2016

Hi Shawn,

Here is a preliminary list.
We plan to publish this beta in the next few days.
Please let us know if you face any issues with the current Beta.

Stagger Lee,

Your latest 2 updates (190 and 193 I believe) have some problem. On first refresh/reload (F5) left sidebar will not open. it opens just when you click small arrow somewhere to open right sidebar.

I've failed to reproduce this issue on my side,
Could you please create a short video that demonstrates the issue?

It is very important to know how did you plan for this.

For example:

  • You created a theme on Themler v.178.
  • You activated Beta updates and updated your theme to v.193. The update process created a backup. So you have two themes: theme v.193 and theme_bkp v.178
  • You found and reported a bug with v.193 beta update.
  • We fixed this bug and updated Beta version, to, let's say v.200.
  • You will see the "Update" icon and you will be able to update theme v.193 to the new Beta version.
    The important thing is that if you disable "Get Beta updates" you will not be able to open the updated theme. You cannot downgrade the theme. You can only update it.
    In this case you will need to use a backup of the theme.
  • Then we release v.200 as public.
  • If you have Get Beta updates option enabled you will not see the "Update" button for the theme updated with beta because it's already updated.
    But you will see this icon if we update beta one more time just before release and Themler will be released as v.201 when your theme is saved with v.200. And next time you will see the icon for updated theme when a new beta update (for example, v.250) will be available.

Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi **Shawn**, [Here](page:58662) is a preliminary list. We plan to publish this beta in the next few days. Please let us know if you face any issues with the current Beta. **Stagger Lee**, > Your latest 2 updates (190 and 193 I believe) have some problem. On first refresh/reload (F5) left sidebar will not open. it opens just when you click small arrow somewhere to open right sidebar. I've failed to reproduce this issue on my side, Could you please create a short video that demonstrates the issue? > It is very important to know how did you plan for this. For example: - You created a theme on Themler v.178. - You activated Beta updates and updated your theme to v.193. The update process created a backup. So you have two themes: theme v.193 and theme_bkp v.178 - You found and reported a bug with v.193 beta update. - We fixed this bug and updated Beta version, to, let's say v.200. - You will see the "Update" icon and you will be able to update theme v.193 to the new Beta version. The important thing is that if you disable "Get Beta updates" you will not be able to open the updated theme. You cannot downgrade the theme. You can only update it. In this case you will need to use a backup of the theme. - Then we release v.200 as public. - If you have *Get Beta updates* option enabled you will not see the "Update" button for the theme updated with beta because it's already updated. But you will see this icon if we update beta one more time just before release and Themler will be released as v.201 when your theme is saved with v.200. And next time you will see the icon for updated theme when a new beta update (for example, v.250) will be available. Please let us know if you have any further questions. Thank you, Olivia
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