Disable Content Editing

jamesgander
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jamesgander posted this 14 March 2016

Hi there,

The content editor is causing me big problems when developing sites for clients. I use WordPress as a CMS to build websites to make it easy for clients to edit their own websites, but the Themler content editor is making this impossible. When I go to adjust any part of a page or post template (such as move the 'post header'), Themler adds shortcodes to the page content, even if I hadn't actually edited the content. For example, it will wrap the content I had made in the WordPress WYSIWYG editor in [html] tags, causing all line breaks to be lost (as the WordPress Visual Editor removes <p> tags). Seemingly the only way to fix this is to switch to the HTML editor in the WordPress backend and manually add <p>tags again, but this is useless for handing a site over to a client.

What can I do??? Please add an option to disable content editing - It's fine for building websites for yourself but useless if using Themler to work for clients. I need this feature ASAP as this problem is holding up a website I'm producing for a client.

James

Hi there, The content editor is causing me big problems when developing sites for clients. I use WordPress as a CMS to build websites to make it easy for clients to edit their own websites, but the Themler content editor is making this impossible. When I go to adjust any part of a page or post template (such as move the 'post header'), Themler adds shortcodes to the page content, even if I hadn't actually edited the content. For example, it will wrap the content I had made in the WordPress WYSIWYG editor in [html] tags, causing all line breaks to be lost (as the WordPress Visual Editor removes &lt;p&gt; tags). Seemingly the only way to fix this is to switch to the HTML editor in the WordPress backend and manually add &lt;p&gt;tags again, but this is useless for handing a site over to a client. What can I do??? Please add an option to disable content editing - It's fine for building websites for yourself but useless if using Themler to work for clients. I need this feature ASAP as this problem is holding up a website I'm producing for a client. James

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Abbas Khan
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Support Team
Support Team posted this 14 December 2017

Hi,

Sorry, for now I cannot provide any information regarding the editor for Themler. But we are now working on the new software that will have a simple and powerful visual content editor.

Sincerely,
Hella

Hi, Sorry, for now I cannot provide any information regarding the editor for Themler. But we are now working on the new software that will have a simple and powerful visual content editor. Sincerely, Hella
Administración web
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Administración web posted this 13 December 2017

Cuándo publicarán el Editor visual para el cliente?, solo tiene que ser sencillo, que editen normal su texto e imágenes es todo.

Cuándo publicarán el Editor visual para el cliente?, solo tiene que ser sencillo, que editen normal su texto e imágenes es todo.
simone.miotto
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simone.miotto posted this 29 August 2016

This is driving me crazy...how do I just make the page format like a regular wordpress page...all the formatting built into the page is gone now...

http://screencast.com/t/hMbLhCAk

Hi, i had the same problem but this plugin saved my day: https://wordpress.org/plugins/tinymce-advanced/
Go in plugin settings and flag "keep paragraph tags".
I hope this can help you.

> This is driving me crazy...how do I just make the page format like a regular wordpress page...all the formatting built into the page is gone now... > > > http://screencast.com/t/hMbLhCAk Hi, i had the same problem but this plugin saved my day: https://wordpress.org/plugins/tinymce-advanced/ Go in plugin settings and flag "keep paragraph tags". I hope this can help you.
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 21 May 2016

They keep changing functions names all the time. To remove Themler edit button from Post/Page editing screen:

function remove_themler_button() {
   remove_action('edit_form_after_title', 'themler_edit_form_buttons');
}
add_action( 'admin_head', 'remove_themler_button' );

They keep changing functions names all the time. To remove Themler edit button from Post/Page editing screen: function remove_themler_button() { remove_action('edit_form_after_title', 'themler_edit_form_buttons'); } add_action( 'admin_head', 'remove_themler_button' );
jamesgander
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jamesgander posted this 02 May 2016

In the WP backend, you'll find a 'Theme Options' meta box on the page editor screen - make sure the 'automatically add paragraphs' option is selected. I suspect this will solve your problem - but you may need to switch to the text/html view in the WP backend and remove any shortcodes that Themler has created too.

In the WP backend, you'll find a 'Theme Options' meta box on the page editor screen - make sure the 'automatically add paragraphs' option is selected. I suspect this will solve your problem - but you may need to switch to the text/html view in the WP backend and remove any shortcodes that Themler has created too.
letstalklocal
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letstalklocal posted this 02 May 2016

This is driving me crazy...how do I just make the page format like a regular wordpress page...all the formatting built into the page is gone now...

http://screencast.com/t/hMbLhCAk

This is driving me crazy...how do I just make the page format like a regular wordpress page...all the formatting built into the page is gone now... http://screencast.com/t/hMbLhCAk
Support Team
Support Team posted this 31 March 2016

Hello Tom,
I'd recommend that you submit a new private topic for this issue, attach exported theme (please re-export it with 'Include Themler...' option checked), and couple of screenshots which demonstrate how the theme is looking in Themler and how the exported pages look, so we may see the difference.

Regards,
Aileen

Hello Tom, I'd recommend that you submit a new private topic for this issue, attach exported theme (please re-export it with 'Include Themler...' option checked), and couple of screenshots which demonstrate how the theme is looking in Themler and how the exported pages look, so we may see the difference. Regards, Aileen
EversmanTech
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EversmanTech posted this 29 March 2016

After reading these posts, I am in the process of using a new solution like Themler to build CMS sites for clients, as well as allow them to edit as an Editor. I performed the steps that was mentioned by the support team by exporting and importing, and it does NOT work. I am using the Mac version. The graphics are left out, as well as the fonts. The only way I will use this product is if this works. I will not use the Themler WP install since my clients will make edits.. and I did uncheck "include Themler" in my export. Very unreliable.

After reading these posts, I am in the process of using a new solution like Themler to build CMS sites for clients, as well as allow them to edit as an Editor. I performed the steps that was mentioned by the support team by exporting and importing, and it does NOT work. I am using the Mac version. The graphics are left out, as well as the fonts. The only way I will use this product is if this works. I will not use the Themler WP install since my clients will make edits.. and I did uncheck "include Themler" in my export. Very unreliable.
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 25 March 2016

Just one word.

Developers can have "insert content" in new Blog sections. This is completely different aspect and is welcommen addition for styling and layout. Easy to delete them later.

Just one word. Developers can have "insert content" in new Blog sections. This is completely different aspect and is welcommen addition for styling and layout. Easy to delete them later.
Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 25 March 2016

... some of us just want a theme building tool, not a full website
builder.

+1. Exactly!

I talked about this many times... need more powerful theme building tool, not just a constructor (website builder).
Themler team, please pay attention for this. Will be very nice if you can correct your plans and roadmap for future.

> ... some of us just want a theme building tool, not a full website > builder. +1. Exactly! ------------ **I talked about this many times... need more powerful theme building tool, not just a constructor (website builder). Themler team, please pay attention for this. Will be very nice if you can correct your plans and roadmap for future.**
jamesgander
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jamesgander posted this 22 March 2016

Hi Aileen,

I think you have misunderstood. Of course theme and content editing are different tasks - that's obvious.

I wasn't asking for a way to prevent content editing all together - if I wanted that I wouldn't use a CMS. What I want is the ability to disable the content editing in Themler. I don't want themler even attempting to edit the content I or my clients produce in the WordPress backend. Perhaps just a toggle option in Themler to switch off its content editing ability?

The hiding Themler from clients issue was a separate but related topic brought up by Stagger Lee, and this is also true. Again, if you could implement an option to disable Themler's content editing ability, it should also hide the button in the WP Backend as Stagger Lee provided instructions for. We shouldn't have to do this manually, and some of us just want a theme building tool, not a full website builder.

James

Hi Aileen, I think you have misunderstood. Of course theme and content editing are different tasks - that's obvious. I wasn't asking for a way to prevent content editing all together - if I wanted that I wouldn't use a CMS. What I want is the ability to disable the content editing in Themler. I don't want themler even attempting to edit the content I or my clients produce in the WordPress backend. Perhaps just a toggle option in Themler to switch off its content editing ability? The hiding Themler from clients issue was a separate but related topic brought up by Stagger Lee, and this is also true. Again, if you could implement an option to disable Themler's content editing ability, it should also hide the button in the WP Backend as Stagger Lee provided instructions for. **We shouldn't have to do this manually, and some of us just want a theme building tool, not a full website builder.** James
Support Team
Support Team posted this 22 March 2016

Hello James,
I apologize for delay in response from support team.
The content editing and theme editing tasks are in fact two different tasks.
If you want your users/customers not to be able to open Themler and thus edit style you may:
-save the theme without 'Include Themler..' option and install this theme to WP site;
-hide the Themler menu button in WP admin menu as was described by Stagger Lee

As for content editing, it is possible to do in WP admin back end and we cannot do anything to prevent end users from editing it.

Please let us know if you have any other specific questions

Regards,
Aileen

Hello James, I apologize for delay in response from support team. The content editing and theme editing tasks are in fact two different tasks. If you want your users/customers not to be able to open Themler and thus edit style you may: -save the theme without 'Include Themler..' option and install this theme to WP site; -hide the Themler menu button in WP admin menu as was described by Stagger Lee As for content editing, it is possible to do in WP admin back end and we cannot do anything to prevent end users from editing it. Please let us know if you have any other specific questions Regards, Aileen
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 18 March 2016

Shame Shortcake is somehow stranded. First enthusiasm is gone seems so.
For any serious work it has to support mutliple attachments and repeatable fields.

When Shortcakes can be implemented with Themler shortcodes than you can give beginenrs all you want. It goes alreday now to implement many Themler shortcodes in Shortcake, but docummentation is very difficult to find. Still struggle with everything beyond those simple Shortcake shortcodes i found online.

Shame Shortcake is somehow stranded. First enthusiasm is gone seems so. For any serious work it has to support mutliple attachments and repeatable fields. When Shortcakes can be implemented with Themler shortcodes than you can give beginenrs all you want. It goes alreday now to implement many Themler shortcodes in Shortcake, but docummentation is very difficult to find. Still struggle with everything beyond those simple Shortcake shortcodes i found online.
jamesgander
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jamesgander posted this 18 March 2016

Yeah, no way I'd give a client anything that they needed shortcodes to edit. Far too complicated for any sort of beginner, and too much hassle and potential for them to break things...

Yeah, no way I'd give a client anything that they needed shortcodes to edit. Far too complicated for any sort of beginner, and too much hassle and potential for them to break things...
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 18 March 2016

How many of you would give clients / Users those shortcodes to work with ?

Any Section shortcode is all way to complicated for any beginner.

How many of you would give clients / Users those shortcodes to work with ? Any Section shortcode is all way to complicated for any beginner.
jamesgander
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jamesgander posted this 18 March 2016

Yes, that's certainly one way of getting round it. I do like including Themler so that I can make quick theme edits and fixes if a client needs them without having to work on a localserver and then export the theme and reinstall it, so not an option I'll be using.

Yes, that's certainly one way of getting round it. I do like including Themler so that I can make quick theme edits and fixes if a client needs them without having to work on a localserver and then export the theme and reinstall it, so not an option I'll be using.
len
138 Posts
len posted this 18 March 2016

When exporting a theme as a zip from Themler, I make sure the "include Themler for customizing this theme" is NOT checked.
I have no intention of allowing customers to mess with the theme, nor do I want any content from Themler. Content is added in Wordpress. The Themler button does not appear.
My only issue is lack of access to shortcodes in the Wordpress page editor.

When exporting a theme as a zip from Themler, I make sure the "include Themler for customizing this theme" is NOT checked. I have no intention of allowing customers to mess with the theme, nor do I want any content from Themler. Content is added in Wordpress. The Themler button does not appear. My only issue is lack of access to shortcodes in the Wordpress page editor.
jamesgander
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jamesgander posted this 17 March 2016

Thanks Stagger Lee, I will try this and let you know if I get anywhere.

Support team, any comment on this please?

Thanks Stagger Lee, I will try this and let you know if I get anywhere. **Support team, any comment on this please?**
Stagger Lee
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Stagger Lee posted this 15 March 2016

I see now what is problem (error). You probably forgot to delete function from Settings in Themler, so it is called twice from your code.

I see now what is problem (error). You probably forgot to delete function from Settings in Themler, so it is called twice from your code.
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